Re: Improvements to gnuapl

[Elias Mårtenson]

Actually, when I said experiment I meant experiment with language design, not using such features.

With KAP I decided to depart from standard APL on a few areas so that some new interesting behaviour could be of implemented. A lot of of standard APL works though. 

Of course, if you are looking for a pure APL, then my project won't be of interest at all. 

Den tis 23 feb. 2021 18:28Christian Robert <christian.robert@polymtl.ca> skrev:

NARS2000-64 has already this kind of syntax while exactly having the core of gnuapl/apl2 for maybe 10 years.

if you want to experiment download it (windows only and free)

http://www.nars2000.org/download/Download.html

Xtian.

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in feb 2015 i asked:

that said, my real question is:

how hard is it to implement the standard/or-not-as-standard-as-it-seems

:if {boolean}
   do this
:else
   do that
:endif

:repeat
   do this
:until {boolean}

:for {var} :in {list}
   do this
:endfor

:forlcl {var} :in {list}
   do this
:endforlcl

I think there is a :while :endwhile  too


thoses are really missing (to my point of view).


On 2021-02-23 05:09, Elias Mårtenson wrote:
> If you you want to experiment with this stuff, my project needs help. 😃
>
> Den tis 23 feb. 2021 18:07Christian Robert <christian.robert@polymtl.ca <mailto:christian.robert@polymtl.ca>> skrev:
>
>     I will ask again in 6 years.
>
>     Xtian.
>
>     On 2021-02-22 14:36, Dr. Jürgen Sauermann wrote:
>      > Hi Christian,
>      >
>      > I can't quite follow the argument that :IF/:ELSE etc. makes it easier for
>      > newcomers to learn APL. If I remember my learning of APL some decades
>      > ago correctly, then, coming straight from ALGOL and BASIC as my first
>      > "high-level" languages, I was overwhelmed by the large number of symbols
>      > in APL. Adding even more alternatives (read :IF/:ELSE) to the existing
>      > concepts (read: →) would most likely have confused me as a newcomer
>      > more than it would have helped me.
>      >
>      > I would also argue that a newcomer should first learn the core concepts of a
>      > language before being distracted by the non-standard extensions of some
>      > language dialects.
>      >
>      > Best Regards,
>      > Jürgen
>      >
>      >
>      > On 2/20/21 7:59 PM, Christian Robert wrote:
>      >> well I saw the new thrends aka Quad-XML, Quad-JSON, Quad-FFT and so on
>      >>
>      >> but I think thoses will never be used in real life or quite seldom.
>      >>
>      >> I really think that Juergen should be looking at
>      >>
>      >> :if/:elseif/:else/:endif
>      >>
>      >> :for var :in array
>      >>   loop
>      >> :endfor
>      >>
>      >> :while condition:
>      >>   loop
>      >> :endwhile
>      >>
>      >> :do
>      >>   loop
>      >> :until condition
>      >>
>      >> this will eases newcommers to the language.
>      >>
>      >> I know that APL goal is to do a whole "program" in one or two lines of code...
>      >> but the language must accomodate newcommers.
>      >>
>      >> I asked for that several years ago (may me 8 or 10 years)
>      >>
>      >> Juergen ansewered at that time "this can be done" but I wont yet
>      >>
>      >> well my principal next improvements wish list is if/for/while/do_until
>      >>
>      >> my real though,
>      >>
>      >> Xtian.
>      >>
>      >
>