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Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process
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Greg Wooledge |
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Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process |
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Wed, 23 Jun 2021 19:29:45 -0400 |
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 03:17:48PM -0700, Martin Jambon wrote:
> > What is the magic quality that imparts shellness?
>
> '$$' matching the process ID.
That just signifies that you're in the original shell, or the main shell,
or the root shell, or the fundamental shell, or make up whatever term
you like for it.
Every bash (or sh) process is a shell, regardless of whether it's a
subshell or not. That includes subshells, and non-sub-shells.
Here's a brief demonstration: I have two terminals opened. The first
one is pts/3:
unicorn:~$ ps
PID TTY TIME CMD
966 pts/3 00:00:00 bash
1363991 pts/3 00:00:00 ps
unicorn:~$ (sleep 10; true)
In the second terminal, while the sleep is running:
unicorn:~$ ps f -t pts/3
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
966 pts/3 Ss 0:00 bash
1364016 pts/3 S+ 0:00 \_ bash
1364017 pts/3 S+ 0:00 \_ sleep 10
Process 966 is the interactive bash shell, which is not a subshell. It's
the other kind of shell.
Process 1364016 is the subshell created by the (parentheses) to run the
command which was specified inside them.
They're both instances of bash. They're both shells.
> I'm not sure why I have to fight over this. It's clearly my
> misunderstanding. That's why I suggest clarifications in the documentation,
> if you're interested in creating a better experience for users like me.
Nobody knows what the hell to CALL it. That's the problem. It doesn't
have a clearly defined name, because nobody ever NEEDED one.
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, (continued)
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Martin Jambon, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Greg Wooledge, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Martin Jambon, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Lawrence Velázquez, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Martin Jambon, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Lawrence Velázquez, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Martin Jambon, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Greg Wooledge, 2021/06/22
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Chet Ramey, 2021/06/23
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Martin Jambon, 2021/06/23
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process,
Greg Wooledge <=
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Chet Ramey, 2021/06/24
- Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Chet Ramey, 2021/06/23
Re: 'wait' in command group in pipeline fails to recognize child process, Chet Ramey, 2021/06/22