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Re: [Bug-ddrescue] Linux drive access without BIOS detection


From: Scott Dwyer
Subject: Re: [Bug-ddrescue] Linux drive access without BIOS detection
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:17:18 -0400
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My first thought: is this repeatable? Meaning, can windows see it every time and linux can't? Or did he just get lucky and the drive happened to load correctly that time? Are you sure the bios didn't detect it? I have a personal drive that is like that... on most starts it will just click and not be recognized in bios (or any op system including windows). But sometimes it would get something just right and be recognized (think the "firmware" that is stored on a special part of the drive had read problems). When it was recognized it would work just fine with no errors, until the next boot and then it would be hell to get back again. But I don't see any way that windows could see any hard drive that was not available to the bios... unless it caused the drive to restart again after booting and luck was involved. So I ask again, is this repeatable?


On 6/25/2013 7:56 PM, Seth Baker wrote:
I thought recovery was not recoverable through software means if the BIOS doesn't detect the drive, but it turns out not always true. At my work, an executive secretary kept important files on a drive that stopped booting. I have been a computer technician for 15 years and used ddrescue for 5 years. I could not find a way to recover anything on the drive. One of the executives wanted to try recovering data after I explained all the things I tried  This is a man who has no formal IT experience, except he told me he has been tinkering with computers for the last 40 years. So he plugs the drive into sata port and boot up the computer and the drive starts clicking and I see that it not detected in the BIOS. After Windows 7 boots up, he goes to "Computer" and the drive is there. After I pick up my jaw that has just landed on the floor, I start coping over important files. They copy at 3 MB/s which I guess means it is doing it over PIO mode 0, but they all copy successfully. How does Windows access this drive without BIOS detection? Can I do the same with Linux with RAW option or another option in ddrescue? The disk won't show up as a /dev/sdX device in Linux. Any ideas?


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