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ls sorting now annoying


From: Joel Boutros
Subject: ls sorting now annoying
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 11:01:37 -0700


version: i'm using RedHat 7.2 with the bundled version of fileutils.
maybe this is a redhat thing?  wouldn't surprise me.

i've just noticed ls(1) now sorts without regard to '.' at the
beginning of the filename, for options -AF, which intermingles
dotfiles with non-dotfiles.  knock it off.  on top of that, no
(documented) option is provided to do purely alphabetical sorting
(or even to do any name-based sorting, which would be useful to
override 'alias ls="ls -t"' if i were stupid enough to do something
like that day-to-day operation).

additionally, please stop screwing with the output of commonly used
programs (the most-commonly used programs like ls(1) are particularly
important).  if i wanted my UI to change from release to release without
any means to get it back (besides to install another version, or another
OS, which is becoming increasingly attractive), i'd use windows.  changes
like these (especially those which seem to provide no additional benefit
in exchange for the change in functionality) merely distance your existing
user community from your project and make it difficult to justify using
GNU utilities over something which more closely resembles the rest of the
entire known world.

- joel


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