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Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences
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Dan Jacobson |
Subject: |
Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences |
Date: |
24 Jul 2001 14:53:21 +0800 |
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Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 |
[look mom, a valid Reply-to, now they won't doubt my user prowess
again]
>>>>> "B" == Bill Richter <richter@poincare.math.northwestern.edu> writes:
B> jidanni@kimo.FiXcomTHiS.tw (Dan Jacobson) writes:
B> Say I have a line
B> XXXX XXXX XXXX
B> and I want to put one chinese char in each of the two gaps. I go
B> to the first blank, select the correct char., then want to move to
B> the second blank with a few C-f ...
B> I type
B> b a n g 4 C-f
B> because i see the default choice is correct already
B> I dont need to select say the 3rd character with
B> b a n g 4 3 C-f
B> If I use just the 4 version, and not the 4 3 version, I will still
B> be in character select mode, and the C-f will just rotate choices
B> instead of moving the cursor... which is very unnatural after so
B> many years of habit.
B> Anyways, the feeling is "OK, I've already got what I want on the
B> screen, now can I please move around?" It seems that the easiest
B> way under the present scheme is to hit SPC Backspace, to break out
B> of character select mode... a wee bit easier to type than C-\.
B> Dan, I tried this, and it seems to me there's a very simple solution
B> that doesn't involve rebinding any keys. If I understand you
B> correctly, your problem is that you don't want to keep inputting
B> `bang4', having inputted it once correctly.
mainly, I {put the keys in the ignition, step on the gas} == {hit
C-f}, and I want to move forward like has become habit, instead of
still looping thru character selection... so maybe have right-arrow do
that, but save C-f for "give me the zoom power to get my cursor out of
the mudpit of character selection looping and back onto the dry
pavement of moving forward." {for some users, arrow might be a deeper
habit that C-f, of course, so then arrow could be forward-char, and
C-f still do character selection.)
B> Let's try it:
B> XXX XXX XXX XXX
B> I'm going to insert 膀 (typed b a n g 4 in GB as you say) in each of
B> the 3 blank spaces.
B> I position myself in the 1st blank and type b a n g 4 and now have
B> XXX膀 XXX XXX XXX
B> and the point is positioned after the chinese char 膀.
OK, but you didn't vacuum up the blank with C-d [which is nice as it
also turns off character selection mode.]
B> Now I select the chinese char 膀 with the mouse by clicking mouse-3 on
B> the previous position.
wait a second, I wanted to do all this without removing fingers from
the keyboard... no fair using the mouse, ok, "supposing we aren't
using the mouse in this problem".
B> Now the chinese char 膀 is in the kill ring, and I can paste it in the
B> other 2 SPCs with mouse-2. So two mouse clicks later I have:
wait a second second, no fair using the same character...
B> XXX膀 XXX膀 XXX膀 XXX
B> Is that good enough? Did I understand you correctly?
erm, my main problem, and indeed it isn't the end of the world, true,
is when I want to move the cursor to the second and third spots,
somebody left the parking brake on by binding my favorite means of
moving forward C-f, right arrow, to both be character selection, so
one would have to resort to C-e, etc. to break out of character
selection and get movement all in one stroke... [note that I just want
to move a character or two forward so forward-word, etc. are not
appealing to me.
Sorry to bore, but maybe I have found a flaw perhaps.
Yes the RET suggestion has merit, but I want all in one stroke:
breaking out of character selection mode, and: moving forward by
individual characters. I can get breaking out & movement with C-e,
C-a, etc... Please also give me [and future users] back [one of] C-f [or right
arrow, per .emacs customization.]
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- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, (continued)
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Miles Bader, 2001/07/19
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Kai Großjohann, 2001/07/19
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Bill Richter, 2001/07/20
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Miles Bader, 2001/07/21
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Bill Richter, 2001/07/25
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Miles Bader, 2001/07/26
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Bill Richter, 2001/07/26
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Miles Bader, 2001/07/27
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Bill Richter, 2001/07/27
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences, Bill Richter, 2001/07/20
- Re: mule Chinese input inconveniences,
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