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bug#36296: 26.2; cannot-suspend value on MS Win & resume description


From: Sebastian Urban
Subject: bug#36296: 26.2; cannot-suspend value on MS Win & resume description
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 19:50:48 +0200
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0

Hello,

on MS Windows (official build) variable `cannot-suspend' has value
`nil', while according to this thread on help-gnu-emacs:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-0/msg00259.html
probably should have value `t'.  Although there is a line in
documentation of suspend-emacs ``If `cannot-suspend' is non-nil, or if
the system doesn't support job control, run a subshell instead.'', so
it suppose to work even with `nil' and it does for me (both 26.2 and
emacs-27.0.50-snapshot-2019-06-08-i686), but as Ó. Fuentes wrote in
the thread above:

I tried C-z on MSWindows and it does not run a subshell. The console
blinks but nothing else happens. I'm using a development version,
though.

So maybe set it to `t' for MS Windows to be sure it'll work?


And the second part, as I wrote in mentioned thread:

But also, maybe a line about this in the Emacs manual?  I mean if we
have `%emacs' in the manual, so why not a line about times when there
is no job control, which leads to subshell and for example `exit' as
a way out back to Emacs.  Maybe just putting "or `exit'" next to
`%emacs' would be sufficient (I'm just guessing here).


S. U.


In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, i686-w64-mingw32)
 of 2019-04-13 built on CIRROCUMULUS
Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601

Configured using:
 'configure --without-dbus --host=i686-w64-mingw32
 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS THREADS LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: PLK
  locale-coding-system: cp1250

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  delete-selection-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs
format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg gnus-util rmail
rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils elec-pair holidays hol-loaddefs diary-lib
diary-loaddefs cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs delsel cus-start cus-load
finder-inf info tex-site package easymenu epg-config url-handlers
url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs
password-cache url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv
cl-loaddefs cl-lib time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify
ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table
term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image
regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode
lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer
select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang
vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932
hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic
chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook
help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs
button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5
base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable
backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process
emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 8 131313 13875)
 (symbols 24 23589 1)
 (miscs 20 77 174)
 (strings 16 39533 1354)
 (string-bytes 1 1080439)
 (vectors 12 16419)
 (vector-slots 4 555364 4396)
 (floats 8 55 62)
 (intervals 28 289 10)
 (buffers 536 14))





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