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bug#74541: 28.2; Emacs hangs every few seconds


From: Tobias Bora
Subject: bug#74541: 28.2; Emacs hangs every few seconds
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 14:42:33 +0100
User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird

Dear Eli,

Thank you very much for your answer. I was a bit dubious, but indeed, since I tried:

╰─❯ cat ~/.Xresources ─╯
Emacs.useXIM: false

and restarting emacs, everything seems to be back to normal! Thank you so much.

But out of curiosity, can't we, by default, disable XIM for emacs, since anyway it is unusable when XIM is used?

Le 26/11/2024 à 16:27, Eli Zaretskii a écrit :
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:36:14 +0100
From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora@gmail.com>

Bug description: since I upgraded my system, emacs hangs regularly
(usually every 10 seconds or so), during maybe 3 seconds on average.
Like just the time to write this bug report,
emacs hanged 13 times frankly (more than a few seconds), and a few times
I felt a bit of a lag when writting. The hang can
occur while typing, or while moving (e.g. with ctrl+arrow
left/right). The bug occurs also while starting emacs with -Q and with
multiple versions (tested with 28.2 and 29.4). Funily enough, the bug
started after I upgraded my system, but not emacs (emacs was installed
via home-manager, and I upgraded first my system, then home-manager but
still used emacs in the meantime). Note however that this bug is not
specific to the emacs installed via home-manager, as the system-wide
installed emacs also suffers from this bug. I am running KDE, and the
bug was present in KDE Plasma 5 and 6, with both wayland and X11, and
with both the lucid and gtk versions of emacs. Note
also that emacs is the only application witnessing hangs. I run nixos
unstable,
Since you say that the issue began when you upgraded your system
without changing Emacs, I would suggest first to look into the changes
brought in by your system upgrade.  The fact that Emacs is the only
application you use which experiences these problems doesn't
necessarily mean the problem is in Emacs.  For example, Emacs might be
the only program you use that makes use of some system software which
causes this.

Searching in etc/PROBLEMS for "hangs" I found this entry:


   ** Emacs hangs when using XIM

   This is due to an old bug in the implementation of the X protocol's
   XIM transport: when an input method crashes for some reason, Xlib
   cannot recover.  Emacs cannot do anything about this except wait for
   input method developers to fix their crashes.  You can work around
   these problems by disabling XIM in your X resources:

     Emacs.useXIM: false

Could this be your problem?

If nothing else helps, make sure you have debug information for Emacs,
then attach a debugger when Emacs hangs, and post a backtrace here.
Maybe that will give us some clues.

It is also possible that a newer version of Emacs doesn't have this
problem.  The latest released Emacs version is 29.4, and Emacs 30.1 is
currently in pretest.  If you can try that, please do.





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