bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded

[Fran Burstall (Gmail)]

Sorry.  It seems that things are slightly more complicated.  I get the same as you from emacs -Q.  

To get what I saw, from emacs -Q, put 

(require 'help-fns)  ; something I load, loads this.

(add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
  #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)

into *scratch* and evaluate both forms.  Now doing "C-h append RET" causes:

help-fns--run-describe-functions: Symbol’s function definition is void: shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function

Thanks,

---Fran

On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 15:56, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> From: Fran Burstall <fran.burstall@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:44:25 +0000
>
>
> According to the NEWS, there are new functions
>
> shortdoc-function-examples
> shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
>
> and a suggestion to
>
> (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
>     #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
>
> However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
> package is loaded.
>
> Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?

I started "emacs -Q", inserted

    (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
        #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)

into *scratch*, evaluated it, then typed "C-h f string-replace RET"
and got a *Help* buffer with an example of using string-replace.  So
I'm not sure why you say we need autoload cookies, since the advice in
NEWS seems to work OOTB.  What did I miss?

Thanks.