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bug#74903: [PATCH] Add function to show table of keys when describing ke


From: Mekeor Melire
Subject: bug#74903: [PATCH] Add function to show table of keys when describing keymap variable
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 22:55:39 +0000

I had accidentally sent following email only to Stefan Monnier rather than the whole list. I'm thus sending it again.


On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 22:03:22 -0500, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> said:

The table is a bit redundant with the s-exp representation and I'm not sure we want to spend all this time&space printing out a large keymap, but maybe we could use the `help-fns-describe-variable-functions` mechanism to add a one-liner that can be clicked to get to the keymap-specific description, a bit like Custom vars have a "You can customize this variable" link. WDYT?

I agree that there's redundancy. But since adding the function `help-fns-keymap-key-bindings' from my patch to `help-fns-describe-variable-functions` would be opt-in, it'd be up to the user to decide between redundancy and convenience.

Nevertheless, I like your idea of a clickable button, e.g. worded "View this keymap as a table" in the *Help* buffer. Let me continue your comparison to the "You can customize this variable" button by noting that its command, `help-customize', is also bound to "c" in Help-Mode. I'd also like a key binding for "View this keymap as a table", e.g. "k". So, these key sequences would result in the same state:

   C-h v foo-map RET k
   M-x describe-keymap foo-map RET

But we can build up this idea further: What if these would also result in the same state? (`ido-mode' is both a variable and a function.)

   C-h f ido-mode RET o
   C-h v ido-mode RET o
   C-h o ido-mode RET

And also:

   C-h v ido-mode RET f
   C-h f ido-mode RET

What do you think about enabling users to easily "effectively switch"
between describe-* commands in this way?





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