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Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and som
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felix winkelmann |
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Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff |
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Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:26:42 +0100 |
On 12/21/05, John Cowan <address@hidden> wrote:
> felix winkelmann scripsit:
>
> > Once data is in the heap,
> > it is handled in a standard stop-and-copy manner with two semispaces between
> > which data is copied back and forth on every major collection.
>
> So, a classic Baker GC. The trouble with those is, of course, that really
> long-term data gets copied over and over and over .... Have you considered
> having a third generation of stuff that survives N semispace flips and then
> is never GCed again? This would require a write barrier in the second
> generation as well, of course; but this seems to have worked well for
> Smalltalk implementers.
The problem with such an approach is that you can never really be sure
whether some long-living data object is really going to stay forever (imagine
long-running servers). What one *could* do, though, would be to use
conservative GC (i.e. Boehm) for the very long-lived data. Now we just have to
find an extra slot to store a gc-count in...
But you are right: that copying does certainly cost performance and thrashes
caches heavily.
cheers,
felix
- Re: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, (continued)
- Re: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, Thomas Chust, 2005/12/16
- Re: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, felix winkelmann, 2005/12/19
- Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, Sergey Khorev, 2005/12/19
- Re: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, John Cowan, 2005/12/19
- Re: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, felix winkelmann, 2005/12/20
- Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, Sergey Khorev, 2005/12/20
- Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, felix winkelmann, 2005/12/20
- Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, John Cowan, 2005/12/20
- Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, felix winkelmann, 2005/12/21
- Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff, John Cowan, 2005/12/21
- Re: Re[2]: [Chicken-users] Questions on changing Chicken runtime and some other stuff,
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