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Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto
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Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto |
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Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:04:40 -0300 |
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On 12/31/2012 11:05 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Hold your horses!
>
*** Christian, Richard, I really appreciate working with you both. That
is a real challenge sometimes to match your vision-logic, and I learn a
lot along the path. I'm really glad.
I invited Frank Karlitschek, the author of this manifesto, to join the
list. I hope he will do it and reflect on your comments. I will review
them after a good night of sleep.
Happy GNU year!
==
hk
P.S.: Frank, Christian Grothoff made other comments, available in the
GNU/consensus list archive.
> 1. Own the data
> The data that someone directly or indirectly creates belongs to the
> person who created it.
>
> The words "own" and "belong" will give people the wrong idea.
> Meanwhile, "data" is too general.
>
> What if the data is program? This seems to say that the program
> should gave an owner -- and we are against that.
>
> 2. Know where the data is stored
> Everybody should be able to know: where their personal data is
> physically stored, how long, on which server, in what country, and what
> laws apply.
>
> 3. Choose the storage location
> Everybody should always be able to migrate their personal data to a
> different provider, server or their own machine at any time without
> being locked in to a specific vendor.
>
> I guess so, but in the long term, this is aiming low. The real goal
> should be that everyone has a server and keeps her data there.
>
> 5. Choose the conditions
> If someone chooses to share their own data, then the owner of the data
> selects the sharing license and conditions.
>
> "Owner of the data" has the same problems as in the first item.
>
> 6. Invulnerability of data
> Everybody should be able to protect their own data against surveillance
> and to federate their own data for backups to prevent data loss or for
> any other reason.
>
> "Invulnerability" is too strong. Nobody can achieve that.
>
> 7. Use it optimally
> Everybody should be able to access and use their own data at all times
> with any device they choose and in the most convenient and easiest way
> for them.
>
> This is a demand for perfect convenience. I suspect it is impossible;
> more importantly, it is a distraction, since it is not an ethical issue.
> Mere convenience issues should not be elevated to the same status
> as ethical issues.
>
> 8. Server software transparency
> Server software should be free and open source software so that the
> source code of the software can be inspected to confirm that it works as
> specified.
>
> Please don't use the term "open source" here. This is part of the
> free software movement. "Open source" is the slogan of people who
> disagree with our ethical ideals.
>
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- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Richard Stallman, 2013/01/01
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto,
hellekin (GNU Consensus) <=
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Frank Karlitschek, 2013/01/04
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, hellekin (GNU Consensus), 2013/01/04
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Richard Stallman, 2013/01/05
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Hugo Roy, 2013/01/06
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Richard Stallman, 2013/01/06
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Richard Stallman, 2013/01/06
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Hugo Roy, 2013/01/07
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Richard Stallman, 2013/01/07
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Richard Stallman, 2013/01/07
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto, Frank Karlitschek, 2013/01/08