Re: [Denemo-devel] music samples

[Nils Gey]

Hi Richard,

this is indeed a very good idea.
As you might now, working with patterns and reusing parts is one of my longtime 
goals in Denemo. 
A multiclip-clipboard is a good thing, especially if its trivial to implement. 

Working with reference-points, the holy grail as you mentioned appropriately, 
is indeed one of my biggest wishes :)

Nils


On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:05:38 +0100
Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:

> I have had a Good Idea. We can easily store fragments of music (as we do
> when we push the Denemo Clipboard), and then insert these wherever
> needed in a composition.
> For my work I would want to do this when entering the rhythm of a piece
> - some quite complicated rhythmic patterns (involving grace notes,
> tuplets, slurs, ties and articulations) are often repeated, and take a
> fair amount of mental effort to create. By storing them and just
> recalling them at the points needed I think I will get a faster input.
> (Astute followers of Denemo will feel they heard this before: correct,
> the rhythm pattern toolbar allows you to store a rhythm and then follow
> it as you play in notes; this goes further, as the whole of the music is
> stored, not just the rhythm).
> 
>  I suspect some composers will also find it useful to be able to
> repeatedly paste motifs into their scores. There is also the possibility
> (later) of making these stored motifs persist (ie get stored with the
> music) and by giving them a reference count achieve the holy grail of
> computer-aided composition: riffs/motifs/samples etc which are created
> once and re-used by reference, so that changing the riff changes all the
> occurrences of it in the music.
> 
> Here are my notes on how this could be done (it is virtually trivial):
> 
> music samples - clipboards stored as/with rhythm patterns
> When you hit Create Pattern (=> New) it pushes the clipboard then d-Copy
> and then PopOffClipboard which takes the top most clipboard and attaches
> it to the rhythm pattern.
> So the rhythm pattern acts as an icon for the stored snippet of music,
> and it can be clicked on to paste. These icons will appear on what is
> currently called the rhythm toolbar, it will need to be re-named music
> samples; it will still function as a follower for entering notes
> following its rhythm.
> So you can paste the music sample (clipboard) anywhere at any stage.
> Needed: ability to fix this toolbar so that it does not vanish with the
> Line View (where all menus etc are hidden), since you would need it for
> entering music.
> 
> Also, MIDI default should be to play non-printing notes using percussion
> channel. A command to remove the pitches from a piece would give a way
> of preparing music exercises: remove the pitches and the user creates
> (by playing) a new melody for the given rhythm.
> Well, that is two Good Ideas:)
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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