Re: [Denemo-devel] Help Needed

[Richard Shann]

On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 11:59 +0100, Edgar Aichinger wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2013, 17:44:34 schrieb Richard Shann:
> > > Yes, We could use the OpenSuse build system to build the .rpm, or .deb. I 
> > > will have to try and remember my old password. 
> > 
> > > If a user clicks on one of these files will their package manager fetch 
> > > all its dependencies from the distros repository? 
> > 
> > Can someone who knows please answer this question? I think the answer
> > will be yes if by "clicking" we mean running apt-get install or WHY,
> > because the debian package holds that information in a form ready to be
> > used by the package manager. In any case, installing run-time
> > dependencies would be better than having to install the development
> > libraries, toolchain etc needed to build Denemo.
> 
> Sorry for replying late, I was a bit busy yesterday.
> 
> OBS (created by openSUSE but called Open Build Service now) offers a 
> convenient
> way for installing these generated binary/noarch packages (noarch is just a 
> special case for packages that contain only human readable files and thus can 
> be read on any architecture, like e.g. init scripts, and the user usually
> isn't even presented this detail when choosing something to install).
> There's a powerful search engine at http://search.opensuse.org/ - choose 
> Build 
> Service in the menu on the left, type denemo to the search bar and it comes 
> up 
> with a list of all available built and published packages, for any distro 
> they 
> exist for.

Am I reading this correctly when it only says "unstable" for denemo for
all the versions of openSUSE. And does that mean that nothing "stable"
is available to users of that distro? I have a similar problem when I
visit the Debian site, it gives some 0.9 version as the version
available in all versions including "testing".



>  At least for openSUSE variants you can then simply click the 
> "One click Install" link, which will execute a scriptlet to ask for root 
> password, start your package manager, add the repository containing the 
> desired build, and install the package including all the dependencies, 
> without 
> further user interaction (except maybe clicking ok again once or twice).
> 
> That's just one way to go though, also the project page on OBS offers a 
> Download page with different methods, see 
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:edogawa/denemo
> (upper right side)
> 
> The package maintainer has to make sure though that these dependencies are 
> seen by the package manager. In case the standard distro repository doesn't 
> include them, but are built in some other OBS repo, he should probably create 
> a link to the needed package which effectively creates a copy in his own 
> project.
> I had to do this for lilypond for a while pre oS-12.2 IIRC, because openSUSE 
> didn't ship it as 
> part of the main distro, only via the multimedia:apps project on OBS.
> 
> I see Jeremiah has branched denemo and tries to build for Fedora:
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:jjbenham:branches:home:edogawa/denemo
> 
> I haven't tried to do other distro builds myself yet, but i believe that 
> there's a set of rpm macros to use for adjusting to different distros 
> (install 
> locations, different dependency names etc.) while keeping the build 
> instructions in one .spec file, but this is well documented in the OBS wiki, 
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_cross_distribution_howto
> 
> Hope that helps,

Thank you very much for the reply. I hope we can get something of use to
a broad selection of GNU/Linux and BSD users.

Richard