Re: Cadenza time

[Richard Shann]

I meant to include an example, attached here
it shows a short cadenza and compensating spacers in another staff.
Richard
On Thu, 2022-12-29 at 14:39 +0000, Richard Shann wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-12-28 at 16:56 +0000, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> > Are there any notes on this, because I don't understand?
> > I can see how to start Cadenza time, and it seems to work, but when
> > I
> > want to end it, effectively on the next bar, I get a plethora of
> > queries 
> > as to whether I want things hidden or not, which I really do not
> > know. I 
> > have no Inclusion criteria set.
> 
> Part of the problem is that I think you have started from the
> commands
> in the Time Signatures menu, which are possibly too low level -
> perhaps
> they should be hidden by default. The more user-facing cadenza
> commands
> are in 
> 
> Directives->Markings->Spanning,
> for example:
> Command: Start Cadenza
> Inserts Cadenza start at the current cursor position, which should be
> the start of a (Denemo) bar. Turns off automatic barlines, beaming
> etc
> and sets small sized notes for a cadenza. You can break up the
> cadenza
> in the Denemo Display into Denemo "bars" if the cadenza is too long.
> You will need to insert barlines or use the Allow Page/Line break
> command to let the typesetter break lines. Add Ignore Measure
> Duration
> Error directives in each bar if you want to use Check Score.
> Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Markings ▶ Spanning
> Internal Name: CadenzaOn
> 
> 
> They do have more explanations with them and do things like adjusting
> the size of the cadenza notes and typesetting the indication at the
> start of the cadenza.
> 
> In any case, the introduction of more support for conditional
> behvavior
> has made the insertion of the cadenza  start/end time signatures get
> interrupted by useless suggestions that they might need conditional
> settings, so I've fixed that now.
> 
> The most important thing you need to take away from the new help text
> is that *all* other staffs need to have spacer rests where there are
> cadenza notes so that all the parts start again in sync - essentially
> it is like saying everyone plays the cadenza, just most play
> silently!
> And you should break your cadenza up into chunks (Denemo "bars") that
> the display can handle nicely - recall the the Denemo display only
> works with whole Denemo "bars"
> 
> HTH
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Essentially i have a 100 bar piece with most instruments being used
> > together except for bar 90 when one plays alone for what would be
> > 13 
> > bars or so. Then all start together again.
> > I don't see why I would want to make individual decisions for each 
> > staff, including the Marks Staff, as to whether the time sig
> > appears
> > or not.
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > Joe
> > PS I have attached the file to show where I am working - I haven't 
> > finished the cadenza - there is all sorts of stuff to add.
> > Cadenza in Mandocello.
> 
> 
>

CadenzaExample.denemo
Description: application/wine-extension-denemo