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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Renaming PyBOMBS
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Martin Braun |
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Renaming PyBOMBS |
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Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:45:51 -0800 |
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There's nothing 'wrong', but PyBOMBS does something else.
- The standard packagers can only install what someone has packaged
(usually quite outdated), and most of them only install to the system
- Installing out-of-tree modules doesn't work except for some, on some
packagers
- You often want to curate multiple install of GNU Radio + some modules
in your home dir
- Easy cross compiling
- Configurable recipe lists
- It actually uses the Linux package managers under the hood
- ....
Between portage, pip etc. all of these features surely exist in diverse
packagers. But we want to provide our community with a one-stop, easy
way to explore the out-of-tree modules, ease development, etc.
Martin
On 24.12.2015 15:21, Mike Harpe wrote:
> I'm just curious. What's wrong with the standard Linux package
> management systems?
>
> Mike Harpe
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Martin Braun <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>
> Let's not get derailed -- this thread is about finding a new name for
> PyBOMBS, or keeping the old one.
>
> The name doesn't have to be an acronym, either. I don't know what 'pip'
> stands for, I'm not even sure 'yum' stands for anything, and 'emerge' is
> just a nice word that describes what it's doing. Something that the
> community finds overall nice for tool that does lots of things such as
> installing GNU Radio and making development easier, that is easy to type
> and remember and just looks good.
>
> Cheers,
> M
>
> On 12/22/2015 07:35 PM, Tim O'Shea wrote:
> > Cutesy acronym grumblings aside on this one, If all you wanted to
> do was
> > install gnu radio, apt, rpm, our emerge would do. IMO pybombs seems
> > more about indexing, installing, setting up development environments,
> > and updating out of tree modules - "grin" implied scope is a small
> > subset thereof
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015, 10:02 PM Neel Pandeya
> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
> > <mailto:address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Also perhaps:
> >
> > GRIN = Gnu Radio INstaller
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 December 2015 at 15:37, Martin Braun
> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
> > <mailto:address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>>> wrote:
> >
> > Another suggestion from #gnuradio was 'grapple'.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On 22 Dec 2015 15:12, "Neel Pandeya"
> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>
> > <mailto:address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>>> wrote:
> >
> > My vote would be for one of these:
> >
> > GRPM = GnuRadio Package Manager
> >
> > GRAB = Gnu RAdio Basic installer
> >
> > GRBI =
> >
> > Gnu Radio Basic Installer
> >
> > I agree with Tim O'Shea, the name should be something
> short
> > and functional, and give an idea of what it does,
> instead of
> > being cutesy and contrived.
> >
> > --Neel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 December 2015 at 12:10, Martin Braun
> > <address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden> <mailto:address@hidden
> <mailto:address@hidden>>> wrote:
> >
> > There's been some demand to rename PyBOMBS, and
> now that
> > we're
> > re-releasing it, this is a good time to think
> about it.
> > Complaints about
> > the name include:
> >
> > - It may or may not be true that people have been
> > detained by TSA for
> > working on PyBOMBS at the airport[1]
> > - The name suggests a Python-related packages (like
> > Pylint, PyPI...)
> > rather than a GNU Radio-related tool
> > - People can't agree on a capitalization
> > - No one can remember what the acronym stands for
> >
> > Sure, this is not a critical thing, but now's a good
> > chance to bring it
> > up and also, this is not a joke :)
> >
> > Here's how we're going to do this:
> >
> > - Please suggest new names in this thread.
> > - I will choose from those names based on 'can I live
> > with this name',
> > 100% subjectively.
> > - New names will be put up for a vote. This will
> include
> > an option to
> > keep the old name.
> > - Finally, the result of the vote will be used as a
> > strong suggestion on
> > what the new name will be.
> >
> > There already have been some suggestions:
> >
> > - gromit -- the GNU Radio out-of-tree module
> > installation tool
> > - the groot
> > - grpm -- the GNU Radio package manager
> >
> >
> > OK guys, bring up the ideas!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
> > [1] It's not.
> >
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