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Re: across terminals
From: |
Paul Eggert |
Subject: |
Re: across terminals |
Date: |
Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) |
> From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:20:46 +0300 (IDT)
>
> > I have never seen a terminal that did not have these characters:
> > # $ @ [ \ ] ^ _ ` { | } ~
> > If they do exist, they must be rare
>
> Unfortunately, this isn't true: many national keyboards in Europe don't
> have keys for some of those ( {, |, and } seem to be most prone to
> this). You need to press some AltGr-key combination to get them.
Yes. For example, according to
<http://www.246.ne.jp/~joe/info/latin1.htm>, the only printable
characters common to all the Western European IBM 106 keyboards are
the ASCII letters, digits, and the following:
! " % & ' ( ) * + , - . / : ; _
The following printable ASCII characters are absent from at least one
keyboard in that list:
# $ <= > ? @ [ \ ] ^ ` { | } ~
> IIRC, \ and _ have some issues on Japanese keyboards.
We do have a few Japanese keyboards here, and characters like \ are
not a real problem with them. Japanese users are well aware that the
Yen-sign character is actually an alias for \, so they know that if
the documentation says "Please type C-\" that they should actually
type Control-(yen-sign). Some Japanese keyboards have both a yen-sign
and a backslash on the key, to indicate the alias.
> I remember that someone told me SIGQUIT was a pain in some European
> country (Germany?) because you need a combination of keys to produce \.
Yes, and it works the other way sometimes too. For example, it's a
pain to type a NUL on Unix US English Sun type 5 keyboard
(Control-Shift-2), but it's easier on a Japanese Information Standard
English IBM 106 keyboard (Control-@).
- Re: across terminals, (continued)
- Re: across terminals, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/25
- Re: across terminals, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/04/25
- Re: across terminals, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2002/04/25
- Re: across terminals, Miles Bader, 2002/04/25
- Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals), Karl Eichwalder, 2002/04/25
- Re: Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals), Pavel Janík, 2002/04/25
- Re: Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2002/04/26
- Re: Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals), Richard Stallman, 2002/04/26
- Re: Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals), Karl Eichwalder, 2002/04/26
- Re: Localization: keyboards and messages (Re: across terminals), Eli Zaretskii, 2002/04/28
- Re: across terminals,
Paul Eggert <=
- Re: across terminals, Richard Stallman, 2002/04/25
- Re: across terminals, PPAATT, 2002/04/26
- Re: across terminals, PPAATT, 2002/04/26