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Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings.
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Luc Teirlinck |
Subject: |
Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings. |
Date: |
Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:49 -0500 (CDT) |
Stefam Monnier wrote:
> but I made the double semicolons in the commented out code into
> triple semicolons myself, because that is how (elisp)Comment Tips
> wants code commented out.
Please don't. It might be documented that way, but outline-minor-mode
behaves very poorly with them. And it's very hard to "fix"
outline-minor-mode because it can't tell the difference between
the case where the three-semi-comment is used for a major heading or
for commented out code. I think the doc should be fixed.
But then we should not only change (elisp)Comment Tips, but also
quantify the assertion:
* Indent each function with `C-M-q' (`indent-sexp') using the
default indentation parameters.
in (elisp)Coding Conventions, as well as change (probably plenty of)
existing code. See for instance "describe-text.el", lines 222 and
following. Note that three semicolons are currently recommended and
used for _several_ purposes other than "major headings", see
(elisp)Comment Tips. The most important ones are for use
_within a function_.
The fact that we would get trouble with C-M-q if we follow your
suggestion seems to be a real nuisance. I would not immediately see
how to fix that problem either.
And it's very hard to "fix" outline-minor-mode because it can't
tell the difference between the case where the three-semi-comment
is used for a major heading or for commented out code.
Can outline-minor-mode not "see" that the commented out code is inside
a function or other Lisp form? I would guess that is pretty rare for
a major heading to occur in the middle of a function. The commented
out code in "describe-text.el" is _not_ inside a function. I do not
know whether this code yields problems for outline-minor-mode.
However, on the one hand, one is not going to call C-M-q easily on
commented out code outside functions (so using two semicolons _there_
would not seem that bad) and, on the other, if one gets "really
desperate" one can, in the worst case, place the commented out code
inside a call to `ignore'. But one could also start (and maybe end)
commented out code outside functions with some standard comment, so
outline-minor-mode (and actually a person reading through the file) can
easily recognize it for what it is.
Anyway, whatever is decided on this, I believe that it is important
that we all follow the _same_ conventions and that these conventions
are clearly and accurately documented. If we all "do are own thing"
then _both_ outline-minor-mode and C-M-q will have problems and we get
the "worst of both worlds".
Sincerely,
Luc.
- Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Luc Teirlinck, 2003/10/08
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Richard Stallman, 2003/10/09
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Luc Teirlinck, 2003/10/09
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Stefan Monnier, 2003/10/10
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings.,
Luc Teirlinck <=
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Luc Teirlinck, 2003/10/10
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Stefan Monnier, 2003/10/10
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Luc Teirlinck, 2003/10/10
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Stefan Monnier, 2003/10/10
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Richard Stallman, 2003/10/11
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Stefan Monnier, 2003/10/14
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Luc Teirlinck, 2003/10/14
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Richard Stallman, 2003/10/15
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Luc Teirlinck, 2003/10/15
- Re: Undocumented hyperlinks in doc strings., Richard Stallman, 2003/10/16