Re: Native scrollbars?

[David Kastrup]

Jan Djärv <address@hidden> writes:

> David Kastrup skrev:
>> Jan Djärv <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> David Kastrup skrev:
>>>
>>>> Toolkit native scrollbars are the default with Emacs.  They don't annoy
>>>> a lot of users apparently.  Probably also because the geek demographic
>>>> of Emacs is different from that of XEmacs.
>>>>
>>> IMHO, the XEmacs Lucid scroll bars look much better than Emacs native
>>> scrollbars.  I think that may be a factor also.
>>
>> I was of the opinion that both used the same code (Lucid), so it would
>> probably just be a matter of the default settings.
>>
>> Personally, I use
>>
>> (setq-default scroll-bar-width 15)
>>
>
> I don't think I have any settings that affects this. I attach a screen
> shot of lucid scroll bars in XEmacs (left) and Emacs (right).  The
> difference is apparent.  It could possibly be fixed by some X resource
> setting, I haven't tried.
>
> Anyway, the Emacs native scroll bar isn't based on Lucid, and looks
> much worse.

Well, mine looks like

and that's without-toolkit-scroll-bars.  So I was mistaken about this
using the Lucid code.  Incidentally, the scroll bar width of the
minibuffer appears unaffected from my settings, and this might be a
bug.  My screen might look a bit prettier otherwise.

So now I don't think it is an option to compile with GTK+ overall while
using Lucid scrollbars.  Sorry for the confusion.

I'm fine with the resulting ugliness in the Emacs-native scrollbars:
using Gtk+ for the rest certainly gives a much nicer appearance overall
than using either Athena Widgets or Lucid for everything.

-- 
David Kastrup