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From: | Rafik NACCACHE |
Subject: | Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 153, Issue 12 |
Date: | Wed, 2 Nov 2016 22:26:03 +0100 |
Hey thank you!
In readme I noticed that you talk about EDN. I actually am not using it, just plain Clojure maps. Can you please change it?
Also please fix the keywordize story and I'll merge your PR.
Thank you so much!
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Can we go GTK-only? (Stefan Monnier)
2. Re: on using cl-do-symbols (Mark Oteiza)
3. Re: on using cl-do-symbols (Stefan Monnier)
4. Re: Can we go GTK-only? (Nikolaus Rath)
5. Re: [PATCH] eww-open-in-new-buffer (Lars Ingebrigtsen)
6. Re: Can we go GTK-only? (Nikolaus Rath)
7. Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 3f06795: Migrate auth-source to
cl-lib (Stefan Monnier)
8. Re: Can we go GTK-only? (Eli Zaretskii)
9. Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 3f06795: Migrate auth-source to
cl-lib (Mark Oteiza)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 12:04:48 -0400
From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
To: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden,
address@hidden
Subject: Re: Can we go GTK-only?
Message-ID: <jwv7f8ldg3h.fsf-monnier+address@hidden >
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> "Should", not "will". And on some systems, only with very recent
> library versions.
Again: which system are you think of that's had a buggy
malloc-with-threads in the last, say, ten years?
Stefan
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:56:12 -0400
From: Mark Oteiza <address@hidden>
To: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: on using cl-do-symbols
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Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:
>> The warning is that there is an unused binding for `sym'.
>> cl-do-symbols does create an outer (let (sym) ?) and then inside
>> mapatoms, another (lambda (sym) ?). Does the outer let-binding in
>> cl-do-symbols need to be there?
>
> I guess it is there so as to obey the CL definition which says:
>
> When result-form is evaluated, var is bound and has the value nil.
>
> If that's the case, then the let-binding can be moved so it only
> covers the `,(nth 2 spec)` part of the code. Personally, I'd be happy
> to disobey the CL specification in this regard since I find it
> completely silly.
I agree--I can't think of a reason why var should be part of
result-form. Interestingly, in the dynamic binding part of dolist, var
is indeed set to nil.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 14:23:05 -0400
From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: on using cl-do-symbols
Message-ID: <jwvk2cl214c.fsf-monnier+address@hidden >
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> Interestingly, in the dynamic binding part of dolist, var is indeed
> set to nil.
Yes, that's for backward compatibility (the lexical part doesn't need
to care about that backward compatibility ;-).
Stefan
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 12:25:03 -0700
From: Nikolaus Rath <address@hidden>
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Subject: Re: Can we go GTK-only?
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On Nov 02 2016, Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> wrote:
>> "Should", not "will". And on some systems, only with very recent
>> library versions.
>
> Again: which system are you think of that's had a buggy
> malloc-with-threads in the last, say, ten years?
GNU libc on Linux in 2008, it seems:
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=6952
Best,
Nikolaus
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:22:47 +0100
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <address@hidden>
To: Mark Oteiza <address@hidden>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] eww-open-in-new-buffer
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Mark Oteiza <address@hidden> writes:
> I wanted something akin to "open in new tab" for eww, so I wrote the
> following.
>
> M-RET seemed a good binding. One thing that bugs me about this is that
> eww-current-url in eww-suggest-uris didn't quite fit: as the new
> function is, it doesn't make sense if url is (eww-current-url).
>
> So, I made changes to eww-suggest-uris. Alternatively,
> eww-open-in-new-buffer could check if url is equal to eww-current-url
> and just clone instead of invoking eww. That might be better.
Looks good to me, I think. It should probably have a NEWS entry and an
eww manual entry, though.
> (defcustom eww-suggest-uris
> '(eww-links-at-point
> - url-get-url-at-point
> - eww-current-url)
> + url-get-url-at-point)
And this should have a :version "26.1".
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 12:25:03 -0700
From: Nikolaus Rath <address@hidden>
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On Nov 02 2016, Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> wrote:
>> "Should", not "will". And on some systems, only with very recent
>> library versions.
>
> Again: which system are you think of that's had a buggy
> malloc-with-threads in the last, say, ten years?
GNU libc on Linux in 2008, it seems:
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=6952
(Just providing the link, personally I think that even with such bugs it
it safe to assume a threadsafe malloc both then and now. Otherwise you
may just as well assume that nothing works anywhere at all).
Best,
Nikolaus
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 16:06:01 -0400
From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Cc: Mark Oteiza <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 3f06795: Migrate auth-source to
cl-lib
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> +(eval-when-compile
> + (require 'cl-lib)
> + (require 'eieio))
AFAIK eieio's macros always end up returning code which depends on eieio
functions, so a compile-time only `require` of eieio doesn't make
much sense.
Stefan
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 22:13:13 +0200
From: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>
To: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden,
address@hidden
Subject: Re: Can we go GTK-only?
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> From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden
> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 12:04:48 -0400
>
> > "Should", not "will". And on some systems, only with very recent
> > library versions.
>
> Again: which system are you think of that's had a buggy
> malloc-with-threads in the last, say, ten years?
Even glibc had a bug. And one or 2 of *BSDs.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 16:16:24 -0400
From: Mark Oteiza <address@hidden>
To: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 3f06795: Migrate auth-source to
cl-lib
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On 02/11/16 at 04:06pm, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > +(eval-when-compile
> > + (require 'cl-lib)
> > + (require 'eieio))
>
> AFAIK eieio's macros always end up returning code which depends on eieio
> functions, so a compile-time only `require` of eieio doesn't make
> much sense.
You're right, thanks.
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