[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
RE: custom-set-variables considered harmful
From: |
Drew Adams |
Subject: |
RE: custom-set-variables considered harmful |
Date: |
Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:03:39 -0800 (PST) |
> > Thus, if you use ‘setq’ instead of ‘custom-set-variable’ you need to
> > manually check every single variable to ensure they don't have setter
> > functions assigned. If you want to be thorough (nobody is) you also
> > need to check them every time your modules are updated. This is not
> > just a theoretical situation.
>
> Note that there are also many situations where the var has a setter, yet
> doing (setq foo val) on it from your ~/.emacs will still work correctly
> (as long as you do it before loading the library).
> I'd argue it's actually the most frequent case.
>
> > It happened in gnu-apl-mode, a library for which I am the maintainer.
> > In it, the variable ‘gnu-apl-mode-map-prefix’ got a setter function
> > after the fact.
>
> Looking at gnu-apl-mode.el, I get the impression that this is no
> exception:
>
> (setq gnu-apl-mode-map-prefix "C-")
> (require 'gnu-apl-mode)
>
> will result in the exact same state as
>
> (customize-set-variable 'gnu-apl-mode-map-prefix "C-")
> (require 'gnu-apl-mode)
>
> after gnu-apl-mode is loaded, OTOH you indeed need to use
> customize-set-variable because a setq would have no real effect.
It may be the case that many uses of `setq' amount to the
same thing as using `c-s-var*'. But I'm not sure what
that changes.
Here's a crazy possibility (not a suggestion, but maybe
food for thought): Make `setq' do `customize-set-variable'
for an option and do what it does now otherwise.
(Ducks for cover...)
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, (continued)
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Elias Mårtenson, 2017/11/24
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Elias Mårtenson, 2017/11/26
- RE: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Drew Adams, 2017/11/26
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Philippe Vaucher, 2017/11/28
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, John Wiegley, 2017/11/28
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Elias Mårtenson, 2017/11/28
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Stefan Monnier, 2017/11/29
- RE: custom-set-variables considered harmful,
Drew Adams <=
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Elias Mårtenson, 2017/11/29
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Scott Randby, 2017/11/29
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Stefan Monnier, 2017/11/29
- Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, Scott Randby, 2017/11/29
Re: custom-set-variables considered harmful, John Wiegley, 2017/11/23