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Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers
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Richard Stallman |
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Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers |
Date: |
Wed, 06 May 2020 22:48:02 -0400 |
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> Customize:
> This feature is conceptually simple but I found it almost hostile to
> interact with. Between, states and unintuitive input fields. I found it
> hard to understand what many functions and variables were meant to do or
> represent. The documentation for these values showed elisp, so I quickly
> transitioned away from customize. I don't know what I would improve here
> but I think that many new users are guided to this feature and I don't
> recommend them to play with it from personal experiences.
I agree that it has big problems.
New users could tell us some aspects they notice as difficult. I
don't think we can expect them to tell us what would make it better
for them -- not in general.
All I can suggest is for someone to try implementing a nicer interface
and invite some new users to try it, saying which aspects they find
less than ideal. Then repeat.
Perhaps we should have separate customize code for graphical
displays. I expect most new users use those. If it doesn't have
to share code with the tty interface, it could be improved more.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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