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Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region? |
Date: |
Sat, 22 May 2021 17:14:16 +0300 |
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 10:03:07 -0400
>
> > There are some commands, such as `downcase-region',
> > that act on the region regardless of whether it's
> > active. Because `transient-mark-mode' has been on by
> > default for quite a while now, and because there are
> > few such commands, users can wonder what's going on.
>
> I see two sub-issues to this:
>
> 1- Breaking long-standing behavior. I'll let others figure out how to
> minimize this (e.g. by testing for `transient-mark-mode` or something).
>
> 2- If we take a step back, I think we'll see there's a "better optimum"
> in this area when `transient-mark-mode` is in use. E.g. we could
> combine `downcase-word` and `downcase-region` into a single command
> which will do either of the two depending on `use-region-p`.
To remind us, this was triggered by someone's mistaken keypress. I
don't think we should use such mistakes to justify significant changes
in long-established behavior. I can easily come up with other
examples where mistakenly holding, e.g., the Ctrl key makes an
absolute mess of my editing (e.g., 's' becomes C-s, and the rest of
what I type more-or-less disappears into the void). That doesn't mean
we should make over-reaching changes to save me from myself. That way
lies madness, IMO. We should stop before it's too late.
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, (continued)
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Clément Pit-Claudel, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Emanuel Berg, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Clément Pit-Claudel, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Clément Pit-Claudel, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/05/22
- RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Drew Adams, 2021/05/22
- RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Drew Adams, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Stefan Monnier, 2021/05/22
- Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Drew Adams, 2021/05/22
- Re: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Stefan Monnier, 2021/05/22
- RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Drew Adams, 2021/05/22
- Re: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/05/23
- RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Drew Adams, 2021/05/23
- Re: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/05/23
- RE: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Drew Adams, 2021/05/23
- Re: [External] : Re: Change default behavior of some commands that act on region?, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/05/23