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TeX-arg-key-val syntax and let go of eval (was: [elpa] externals/auctex
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Tassilo Horn |
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TeX-arg-key-val syntax and let go of eval (was: [elpa] externals/auctex cb0a1e6be1 72/77: Improve function calls to retrieve key=vals in style hooks) |
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Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:33:55 +0200 |
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Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org> writes:
>> So what's wrong with this one?
>>
>> (TeX-add-style-hook
>> "foo"
>> (lambda ()
>> (TeX-add-symbols
>> `("bar" (TeX-arg-key-val
>> ,(lambda ()
>> (append (func1-returning-keyval-alist)
>> (func2-returning-keyval-alist))))))))
>
> If this is the best/only option, well, I'm buying it :)
It's the typical lispy solution which doesn't require eval.
>> That's again caught by the functionp case and can simply be
>> funcalled.
>
> How would you then re-write `TeX-read-key-val'?
In my suggested version where (TeX-arg-key-val foo) would funcall foo if
it were a function (without having to wrap it in parentheses), it would
be:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun TeX-read-key-val (optional key-val-alist &optional prompt)
(multi-prompt-key-value
(TeX-argument-prompt optional prompt "Options (k=v)")
(cond ((and (functionp key-val-alist)
(fboundp key-val-alist))
(funcall key-val-alist))
((and (symbolp key-val-alist)
(boundp key-val-alist))
(symbol-value key-val-alist))
((and (listp key-val-alist)
(listp (car key-val-alist)))
key-val-alist)
(t (error "Cannot interpret key-val-alist %S" key-val-alist)))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> And while we're at, what do we do with `TeX-arg-eval'?
Nothing. It's been there since 1994 so we cannot really do anything
except declaring it obsolete. But since probably nobody byte-compiles
his styles and therefore might see the warning, we will never be able to
get rid of it.
>> I'd rather prefer to keep the DSL simple, e.g., TeX-arg-key-val
>> arguments can either be a literal alist, a function of no args
>> delivering an alist, or a symbol denoting an alist variable (checked in
>> that order). That is, I wouldn't even distinguish functions from
>> variables syntactically but prefer functions in general, e.g.,
>>
>> (TeX-arg-key-val (LaTeX-enumitem-key-val-options))
>>
>> would become
>>
>> (TeX-arg-key-val LaTeX-enumitem-key-val-options)
>>
>> where LaTeX-enumitem-key-val-options is funcalled and takes
>> precedence of the variable of the same name.
>
> Hmm, Sorry, but I don't like this. Why taking away the clarity of
> what is currently used, the variable or the function? I think having
> the function call in () increases the legibility.
Because it makes TeX-read-key-val easy to implement (no need to
distinguish a "funcall list" from a literal alist) and the heuristics
"try function, else try variable, else try literal alist" is really not
hard. Also because
'(TeX-arg-key-val (LaTeX-enumitem-key-val-options))
looks like normal evaluation syntax but that symmetry immediately breaks
with
`(TeX-arg-key-val ,(lambda () ...))
which would need to be
`(TeX-arg-key-val (,(lambda () ...)))
to keep symmetry. But then we're in lisp-1 land which also looks
wrong. :-)
>> Sorry, I know we had a discussion back then where I haven't been
>> explicit enough or haven't had an informed opinion yet. :-(
>
> No problem, you will have to adjust all AUCTeX styles for being late
> ;-)
Sure, I can do that but want to achieve a consensus first. Given that I
haven't written a LaTeX doc in at least 6 years and consequently my
AUCTeX activities have much decreased, I'm not in a position to enforce
my personal preferences.
Bye,
Tassilo
PS: I've added auctex-devel to the Cc and set Reply-To accordingly.
Re: [elpa] externals/auctex cb0a1e6be1 72/77: Improve function calls to retrieve key=vals in style hooks, Emanuel Berg, 2022/08/26
Re: [elpa] externals/auctex cb0a1e6be1 72/77: Improve function calls to retrieve key=vals in style hooks, Richard Stallman, 2022/08/28