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Re: cl-lib warnings
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: cl-lib warnings |
Date: |
Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:20:49 +0200 |
> From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:04:34 +0000
> Cc: juri@linkov.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> If we don't preload eldoc, it will be automatically loaded once you do
> "emacs -Q". So it makes no sense not to preload it,
>
> But I can't see how ElDoc can be useful when doing lots of
> things from emacs -Q like adding '--batch -f batch-byte-compile'
> or '--batch -f elisp-flymake--batch-compile-for-flymake', to name
> just two.
>
> Even when just emacs -Q is used, which starts up
> lisp-interaction-mode, which derives from emacs-lisp-mode, it's
> not unthinkable that ElDoc won't be actually needed at all.
>
> So IMO ElDoc should be auto-loaded, but not preloaded.
> There's also another reason to do so: upgrading ElDoc via
> M-x package-install (note that it is a :core GNU ELPA package)
> is, last time I checked, made more difficult, and requires the
> user to restart Emacs.
If you want to lobby for disabling ElDoc by default, feel free (and
good luck!). But that is a different discussion.
Our policy and practice was since long ago that any package which is
always or almost always loaded at startup without any user say-so,
should be preloaded, since not doing that makes very little sense. So
until and unless we decide to disable ElDoc, it should stay preloaded.
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- Re: cl-lib warnings, João Távora, 2022/12/21
- Re: cl-lib warnings, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/12/21
- Re: cl-lib warnings, João Távora, 2022/12/21
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- Re: cl-lib warnings, Juanma Barranquero, 2022/12/21
- Re: cl-lib warnings, João Távora, 2022/12/21
- Re: cl-lib warnings, Juanma Barranquero, 2022/12/21
- Re: cl-lib warnings, João Távora, 2022/12/21
- Re: cl-lib warnings, Milan Glacier, 2022/12/25
- Re: cl-lib warnings, João Távora, 2022/12/26
- Re: cl-lib warnings, Milan Glacier, 2022/12/26
- Re: cl-lib warnings, João Távora, 2022/12/26
- Re: cl-lib warnings, Tim Cross, 2022/12/26