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Re: Android port of Emacs
From: |
Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide |
Subject: |
Re: Android port of Emacs |
Date: |
Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:34:16 +0200 |
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Closing thought: one of the largest advantages of learning to use Emacs
>> instead of any other tool is that Emacs can follow you wherever you go.
>> Whatever the platform you may (be forced to?) use in the future, Emacs
>> will be there and your skills will be an advantage. The android port
>> closes a significant gap for this. I’ve seen several people move their
>> workflows to proprietary web applications because “then I can use it on
>> the tablet”. Emacs on Android can provide a viable alternative to that.
>
> Thanks, but what you say gives the POV of an Android user, not the POV
> of the Emacs maintenance. I have no doubt whatsoever that having
> Emacs on Android will benefit Android users; my doubts are whether we
> as the project should and can take upon ourselves this additional
> maintenance burden, and promise the Android users that we will
> maintain, let alone develop, this port for the years to come.
That’s not the view of an Android user (I do not currently use Android,
except as an offline two-factor device), but the view of a long term
Emacs user: It is a big advantage for me that Emacs will be wherever my
future life with computers takes me.
Having Emacs everywhere also allows me to avoid lock-in by whatever
platform I use. I may not always have the choice of the platform
(depending on what I do for a living), but by using Emacs I will be able
to preserve my choice to jump back to a libre platform without losing my
skills.
I do not see this as promising that the port will be developed in the
future — that always depends on a developer being interested in doing
that work — but from what Po Lu wrote it does not seem like a large
burden. And from my experience with Java (10 years for volunteer
projects and 5 years professional) 6000 lines of Java are not much. It’s
a pretty verbose language.
The main risk I see is in the toolchain.
@Po Lu: How hard is it to set up a development environment that can
create an apk from the Emacs sources — assuming no prior android
development experience? If it does take a while: are there ways to
reduce that?
Best wishes,
Arne
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- Android port of Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Po Lu, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs,
Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <=
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Bob Rogers, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Po Lu, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Richard Stallman, 2023/06/17
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Konstantin Kharlamov, 2023/06/16
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/06/17
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide, 2023/06/17
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Konstantin Kharlamov, 2023/06/17
- Re: Android port of Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2023/06/17
- Re: contributing to Emacs, Konstantin Kharlamov, 2023/06/17
- Re: contributing to Emacs, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2023/06/17