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Re: contributing to Emacs
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Richard Stallman |
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Re: contributing to Emacs |
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Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:58:17 -0400 |
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> > Features that require Javascript are totallky unacceptable if the JS
> > code is nonfree (see https://gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html)
> > and problematical even if the JS code is free
> > (see https://gnu.org/philosophy/wwworst-app-store.html).
> Why do you assume JavaScript = nonfree? Mailman3-Hyperkitty is free
> software.
I don't assume that. In fact, I said explicitly that I don't. I said,
> Features that require Javascript are totallky unacceptable if the JS
> code is nonfree (see https://gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html)
> and problematical even if the JS code is free
> (see https://gnu.org/philosophy/wwworst-app-store.html).
You're arguing against a moral issue based on practical convenience.
For the free software movement, moral issues are the most important.
> Besides avoiding JavaScript in modern web is impossible in 99% of the
> cases besides for websites that load all of [what they display]
synchronously
> on the initial load of the page.
Web sites hand a method for handling that in 2000: divide the material
into pages in a sensible way, and show each page completely when the user
goes there.
> You can't modify code... that is loaded of from other computers,
That ie exactly the problem I mentioned. This is why it is bad
for web sites to send code to execute in the user's browser.
> the entity that hosts a web application such as Hyperkitty is in control
> which JavaScript is shipped.
Yes, exactly. That why Hyperkitty is fundamentally morally flawed.
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