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Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?
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Ulrich Mueller |
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Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8? |
Date: |
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:46:45 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.3 (gnu/linux) |
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > Sorry, I'm not interested in such radical changes. UTF-8 is an
>> > important encoding, but that doesn't justify what you propose. In the
>> > absolute majority of cases, "U" already means UTF-8 and nothing else,
>> > so the issue is marginal at best, and making such significant
>> > incompatible changes in user-facing displays is unjustified from my
>> > POV.
>>
>> Sorry, but in what world does this qualify as a "radical change"?
> In this one. People have been staring at "U" (and "UUU" on TTY
> frames) since Emacs 23.1 was released. If someone cares about those
> characters so much so that they want them changed, please think about
> others who care about them and would be surprised and probably worried
> by suddenly seeing a different character. (If the assumption is that
> people don't care about these indications, then this whole discussion
> is moot to begin with.)
Well, in the absolute majority of cases (UTF-8) the "U" would stay.
I'd rather expect users to be surprised when they see the "U" but then
find out that the encoding is something entirely different.
>> I propose changing UTF-16 and UTF-7 from uppercase "U" to lowercase "u",
>> and koi8 to some other character like "K".
> Yes, I understand the proposal.
How about the following then?
- Keep "U" for both UTF-8 and UTF-16.
- Change UTF-7 to "u" (which is already used for one of its variants).
- Change koi8 to "K".
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Ulrich Mueller, 2023/07/05
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/07/05
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Ulrich Mueller, 2023/07/05
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Ulrich Mueller, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?,
Ulrich Mueller <=
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Po Lu, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Po Lu, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Po Lu, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Andreas Schwab, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Ulrich Mueller, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Paul Eggert, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Ulrich Müller, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/07/06
- Re: Disambiguate modeline character for UTF-8?, Ulrich Mueller, 2023/07/06