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Re: New(?) idea for making backtraces usable: condition-case*
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: New(?) idea for making backtraces usable: condition-case* |
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Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:12:15 +0300 |
> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 13:52:20 +0000
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
>
> Hello, Emacs.
>
> condition-case's are an unfortunate fact of Emacs life - Typically, when
> a signal is signalled to indicate a bug in the called code, the condition
> case unavoidably discards the most useful part of the backtrace. This
> conundrum gave rise (I think) to bug #50629 "hard to debug an uncaught
> error with ert" raised by Mike Kupfer on 2021-09-16.
>
> My idea here is to write a new special form, condition-case*. This would
> behave the same as condition-case unless a signal is signalled. In that
> case the error handler forms would evaluate _before_ the specpdl gets
> unwound. This unwinding would take place on exiting an error handler in
> the form. The unwinding would NOT happen if the error handler is exited
> with, say, signal. This would give nested condition-case*'s the chance
> to output a full backtrace.
>
> In the event of generating a backtrace, the entire stack at the point of
> failure would get output.
>
> Possibly, a new function unwind-stack might be needed, so that an error
> handler can unwind the stack explicitly. I haven't thought this through,
> yet.
>
> The implementation should be relatively straightforward, extending the
> existing mechanisms in eval.c.
>
> Once it's working, large numbers of condition-case's could be replaced by
> condition-case*, easing large amounts of debugging.
>
> What do people think?
I don't think I understand what will this give us that we don't
already have with the following three existing features:
. setting debug-on-signal non-nil
. using 'debug' among the condition-case's conditions
. using condition-case-unless-debug
Re: New(?) idea for making backtraces usable: condition-case*, Richard Stallman, 2023/07/18