Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?

[Emanuel Berg]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> We use keyword arguments when there are many of them, or
> when a few of them are obscure and rarely used. From where
> I stand, the dispute is not about banishing then -- that
> will not happen -- the dispute is about how _much_ to
> use them.

But doesn't that mean there has to be rules for every
individual library? And what kind of rule, for example for
cl-lib? "You are allowed to use it - but not too much"?
How are you going to formulate and enforce such rules?

Well, anyway, then yes - it is not the way I think about
programming and libraries. If there is a library, one should
be allowed to use it as much or little as is needed to improve
one's code.

If everyone is instead supposed to write their own things
instead of using the library solution then it means there will
be code everywhere doing the same thing, almost, and in
a slightly new way for every time it is implemented.

I see that as more complexity and more time spent trying to
understand other people's code, not less.

But yes, the Emacs maintainers have to be familiar with the
libraries being shipped with and included in Emacs. There is
no way around it.

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