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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?
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Emanuel Berg |
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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? |
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Sun, 12 Nov 2023 02:52:07 +0100 |
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Po Lu wrote:
>> The abstractions elevate Elisp to new levels, and from
>> there, they make it easier for everyone else writing code
>> not having to do on the level of very basic building
>> blocks. Relying on wizards to juggle and combine basics
>> like crazy to achieve wonders isn't the way computer
>> technology has been moving forward, on the contrary that
>> has been done by moving complexity into modules and
>> providing neat interfaces so people only have to master the
>> interfaces, not the details what happens below that to
>> carry out the desired task.
>
> When such interfaces number greater than the finer details,
> that proves so much more challenging than expressing these
> details with the elementary operations which
> constitute them.
As we have seen here and in the stats I provided earlier in
the thread how much cl-lib is used, it follows a lot of people
have been able to put it into good use. It is not too
complicated for anyone, and often on the contrary makes the
code shorter and easier to read. If a bunch of guys take on
the entire Emacs source and for that reason want a more simple
Elisp, then that's their opinion based on their particular
point of view. But cl-lib is still awesome and makes the code
better, not worse.
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, (continued)
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, João Távora, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, João Távora, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, João Távora, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, João Távora, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?,
Emanuel Berg <=
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/12
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/12
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/13
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/13
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/11
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Richard Stallman, 2023/11/12
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Dmitry Gutov, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Dmitry Gutov, 2023/11/10
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Po Lu, 2023/11/10