Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hello, Gerd.

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 08:22:27 +0100, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> >> I must admit, both points are vague to me. We understand that
> >> the increase in complexity of Elisp because of the use of
> >> cl-lib is unrelated to when cl-lib is loaded.

> > You don't have to understand it.  The maintainers do, but you don't.
> > If needed, we will point out the implications if they are relevant to
> > the changes you submit to Emacs.

> That is so arrogant, that I can't believe you wrote it.

You have to understand that Emanuel is not a regular Emacs hacker, and
many of the things he's written in this thread are not conducive to
reaching a conclusion.

In fact, he's been questioning how Eli's been doing his job.  There is
no need for this.  I think Eli is doing an excellent job in difficult
circumstances.

Also, there's a history here.  In the medium past, Emanuel posted quite
a few posts that were less than unhelpful, and he was sanctioned for
this.

So I think it's understandable that Eli finally lost patience with
Emanuel.  I think I would have done the same, only much sooner.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).