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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 17:01:02 +0200

> From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 13:14:11 +0000
> Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 12:23 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> > > But it still feels like some people are not
> > > convinced that that documentation is essential at all (you seem to be
> > > one of them, reading further).
> > Show me the docs changes you think should be installed, and let's take
> > it from there.  Until then, this kind of hand-waving and vague
> > accusations are not useful.
> 
> You can't make this stuff up.  Didn't you just write 30 minutes ago
> 
>   because we generally don't say such things
>   in our manuals, except in rare exceptional cases (which the
>   seq.el one isn't, IMNSHO)
> 
> ?? Is this not crystal clear evidence that IYNSHO this type
> of documentation for seq.el isn't needed?

No, it states the facts as I know them.  It doesn't mean I necessarily
think we should keep doing that.

> Are you sure _I'm_ the vague accuser??

Show me that I was wrong by submitting the docs you think should be
added, and let's take it from there.

> I hope that by sniping the rest of the message you at least
> acknowledge that we _do_ say such things in our Elisp manual.

No, it just means that I have nothing useful to say about that, and
prefer to say nothing.

> > In general, I suggest to be less "combative" in this and similar
> > discussions.  It doesn't help arriving to a consensus.  But I digress.
> 
> Indeed.  And likewise.

Yeah, right.



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