Re: Instead of pcase

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 19/11/2023 17:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:58:39 +0200
> > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, luangruo@yahoo.com, jporterbugs@gmail.com,
> >   rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
> >
> > On 19/11/2023 16:52, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > > > > What I don't like here in this discussion is that some people are not
> > > > > > willing to accept that other people make different experiences with the
> > > > > > same things.
> > > > > This goes both ways, you know.
> > > > The "other side" doesn't create threads with angry comments about the
> > > > developers with opposing views writing lower-level verbose code
> > > > (choo-choo trains, Joao called that), with calls to prohibit such practices.
> > > I meant this very thread.  The very previous message, actually.
> >
> > I don't see calls for prohibiting those implementation styles, in the
> > previous messages, or anywhere. It would be impractical anyway.
>
> I wasn't talking about prohibiting, I was talking about accepting that
> both sides have a right to describe their experiences.

Perhaps you'll consider posting a message supporting both positions, then.

> > > > OTOH, enacting a ban on particular abstractions will just about
> > > > guarantee that certain kinds of features will not be implemented.
> > > That's a strawman: no one of those who set policies here suggested any
> > > bans.  One should be able to post opinions for and against certain
> > > coding styles without being accuse in mortal sins.
> >
> > No one is arguing about whether people are allowed to post opinions.
> >
> > There have been a few calls for working toward dropping pcase or cl-lib
> > from the Emacs core, however.
>
> You need to know to whom you listen, before you make such far-reaching
> conclusions.

I don't think I've made any specific conclusion (or any predictions).

But when some prolific contributors make such statements, and RMS is 
noticeably on their side, that can't help but create a certain 
impression to the public (this list is read not just by the core 
contributors).