Re: [O] Nice blog post - Org-mode in Your Pocket Is a GNU-Shaped Devil

[Suvayu Ali]

Hey François,

On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 07:18:56AM -0400, François Pinard wrote:
> Suvayu Ali <address@hidden> writes:
> 
> > For me it is the other way around.  I want to couple with Emacs more
> > closely, but Gnus prevents me from doing so.  A few gripes follow.
> 
> > 1. Emacs is single threaded, so a network interruption while reading my
> >    email over IMAP means my emacs server is stuck!
> 
> It would be so appealing if Emacs was really using threading for its
> windows.  Tom Tromey seems to be making a very courageous attempt at it,
> but is still hitting various problems and walls.  I wonder if he will
> succeed at the end.

I'm dying for Emacs to be multi-threaded in the future.  Email is just
one task affected by this.  My biggest problem is using tramp over
unreliable connections.  e.g. I want to edit my remote org files with
the latest and greatest of org on my laptop!  I often have to work on
remote machines behind internal gateways (that's 3 ssh hops away!).  I
do save my notes/tasks in org files there, but cannot edit them
optimally because emacs on these nodes is some crappy old version.

> > 2. Oh that's easy to solve, use maildirs (sync with OfflineIMAP).  That
> >    does not work well because Gnus uses its own flags (an example where
> >    Gnus actually breaks standards)!  There are some hacks around that
> >    out in the wild, so let's let it slide.
> > 3. Gnus stores some meta information/cache for maildirs in a .nnmaildir
> >    folder *inside* the maildir directory tree!
> >      maildir
> >      ├── .nnmaildir
> >      ├── cur
> >      ├── new
> >      └── tmp
> >    I do not know how, but this supposed meta information or cache takes
> >    about 2/3 of disk space as the original maildir!  Obviously that is a
> >    problem for large mailboxes.
> 
> I never really studies IMAP, and use it rather naively, so I take your
> word about Gnus not being straight about it.  Sorry to hear that.  I've
> not been bitten yet, or maybe I'm just too naive to know.

Ah I think you misunderstood me.  My solution above was to move from
IMAP to Maildir so the reliance on a live network connection is gone.
Gnus screws it up when dealing with _Maildir_ flags.

Now back to work and more on topic threads.  ;)

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

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