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Re: [ESPResSo-users] Simulation of fluid using LB-method
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Wink, Markus |
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Re: [ESPResSo-users] Simulation of fluid using LB-method |
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Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:08:31 +0000 |
Hi everybody,
finally, I got the right maximum velocity (see attached file). The boundary
setting of Stefan resulted in the right fluid behavior. But when reading the
answer of him, a new question arose:
What is the matter with the skin depth. What for do we need it in a simple
poiseuille-flow simulation? In the user guide it is not well explained. Can
someone tell me what it is and probably suggest some literature to me? Thanks a
lot.
Greetings
Markus Wink
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Hi everybody,
please forgive me, but is it clear that the solution is converged? Markus, have
you tried running for twice (or half) as many steps, and checked that you get
exactly the same results?
Because near the boundary the curvature looks perfect and closer to the center
I'm not sure.
Let me make one thing clear. With our staggered grid the position of the node
(m,n,o) is at m+0.5, n+0.5, o+0.5. This means if you lbboundary is located at
z=1, it means there is a layer of wall nodes at x=*, y=*, z=0.5. For not too
high viscosities (should be in the He formula as well) no measurable slip
should appear and the hydrodynamic boundary should be located mid-grid, thus at
z=1.
If you place a boundary at - say - 0.8, the hydrodynamic boundary of course is
still at 1.
I'm not sure, Markus, if you put these parameters correctly into you
theoretical curve. We introduced the staggered grid some time after Georg's
bachelor thesis to allow for using a nonzero skin with LB.
Cheers
Stefan
On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Ulf Schiller <address@hidden> wrote:
> On 01/30/2014 02:33 PM, Georg Rempfer wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I remember that we fixed the issue with the missing 0.5*h*F some years
>> ago. For a flat bounce-back wall aligned with the lattice axis, the
>> actual hydrodynamic no-slip wall is positioned in the middle between the
>> last fluid node and the first wall node.
>
> There is still a viscosity dependent slip velocity, cf. Eq. (20) in [He et
> al. (1997), J. Stat. Phys. 87, 115].
>
> Cheers,
> Ulf
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