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Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyw
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Sander Vesik |
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Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways? |
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Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:12:03 +0000 (GMT) |
On 9 Feb 2001, Lloyd Llewellyn wrote:
>
>
> > So, what is 'groupware'?
> > * calendaring
> > * email access
> > ? newsgroup access
> > * email alias/list management
> > * shared file access (webdav?)
> > * todo lists
> > * project/progress tracking
> > * address book(s)
>
> All of the above qualify. Some other thoughts:
>
> - Links between items
> - Item views (hierarchical folders, etc)
Applies to only some items.
> - User-administrable permissions system
> - Replication
Level 2
> - Concurrency control
Hopefully supported in underlying protocols, inc. webdav. I think going
for a full revision control would be a bit overboard.
> - Distributable (off-line + syncing, PDA's etc)
>
That's level 2 or 3.
> Prioritizing is important.
>
Yes - hopefully it will apply to mails aswell (yet another header line?)
>
> > Where does Mozilla fit into this?
>
> Should it? Except as a potential client?
>
A buy-in from Mozilla would be very good. It would get the project a very
prominent, visible application with a huge installed base.
>
> Where do Evo and OO fit in? Interest and assistance from existing
> projects that might use these services would be a big help.
>
Two projects that do/used to do groupware things and want to do it (or
whose user base wants them to do it)?
> What can we learn from Gnu Glue? The concept is closest to what I had
> in mind. Markus seemed to be opposed to a server-based model though,
> and I can't see an *entirely* distributed model working in practice.
>
Non-server based models aren't of much use to those who want things
centralised (it has it's advbanteges in administrartion, backup,
resources, etc.) - esp. if we try to be able to actually make use of as
much existing applications as possible.
If you took a multi-layered, high level view of it, you would see:
1 server
|
replicated servers
|
fully distributed system
And it is not a 'is better' pyramid but an 'increasing distribution'
pyramid. We should start at the top and slowly move downwards - starting
at the bottom IMHO unncessarily complicates things for no clear gains.
Sander
One day a tortoise will learn to fly
-- Terry Pratchett, 'Small Gods'
- GROUPWARE, Lloyd Llewellyn, 2001/02/08
- Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE, Sander Vesik, 2001/02/08
- Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Sander Vesik, 2001/02/08
- Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Lloyd Llewellyn, 2001/02/08
- Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?,
Sander Vesik <=
- Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Dan Kuykendall, 2001/02/08
- Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Lloyd Llewellyn, 2001/02/08
- Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Dan Kuykendall, 2001/02/08
- Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Sander Vesik, 2001/02/08
- Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Sander Vesik, 2001/02/08
- Re: [discuss] Re: [Evolution] Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it,anyways?, Dan Kuykendall, 2001/02/08
Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Dan Kuykendall, 2001/02/08
Re: [discuss] GROUPWARE - what is it, anyways?, Thomas Aeby, 2001/02/08