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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO
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Jaromil |
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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO |
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Wed, 9 Nov 2016 17:13:00 +0100 |
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Jaro Mail <https://www.dyne.org/software/jaromail> |
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> On 11/09/2016 04:52 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> >On Wed, 09 Nov 2016, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> >
> >>>tl;dr - an 100% free distro should not include, recommend nor
> >>> facilitate the installation of non-free software. a bios
> >>> firmware is also distributed software
> >>We do not recommend nor faciliate installation of non-free software, and if
> >>the bios firmware is the issue then all OSes fail on any hardware post 2009
> >>- but I thought OS is separate from hardware in this discussion, maybe I am
> >>wrong.
> >this is the misunderstanding then.
> >
> >because you are recommending the option of getting your distribution
> >through a pre-installed medium (a laptop PC) which includes non-free
> >software (as its bios), then its hard to "separate from hardware in
> >this discussion". People here evaluate a sort of "user journey" to see
> >if, as someone approaching your distribution, one would ever be
> >proposed to use/install non-free software. That it should be so it is
> >clearly stated in the 100% free guidelines published by the FSF.
>
> That is our business model, what is the problem there?
to have a business model is not a problem.
The problem is that on the pureOS website you promote acquiring the
distribution through a medium that also vehicles non-free software.
I recommend you look into libreboot.org. If you'd sell pre-installed
laptops flashed with libre-boot, that would solve the issue.
> Bashing us for taking different pathway (to yours) to spread FLOSS
> into hands of average user will gain you nothing.
I'm sorry you perceive me as bashing you. I don't think I'm really
bashing you, nor I have any interest to do so. I do believe we need
more 100% distros and also good business stories around them.
ciao
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, (continued)
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, guix, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Zlatan Todoric, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Riley Baird, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Jean Louis, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Jaromil, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Zlatan Todoric, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Jaromil, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Zlatan Todoric, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO,
Jaromil <=
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Zlatan Todoric, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Jaromil, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Ivan Zaigralin, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Jean Louis, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Ivan Zaigralin, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Jean Louis, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Riley Baird, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Ivan Zaigralin, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Zlatan Todoric, 2016/11/09
- Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO, Ivan Zaigralin, 2016/11/09