Re: Leaving the guix project

[Tomas Cech]

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:30:31 +0100,
Alex Kost wrote:
> 
> David Craven (2017-02-17 13:56 +0100) wrote:
> 
> >> I think if you posit a free software project that works in the way you
> >> describe ("on its own"), it would work very much like Guile works
> >> right now.
> >
> > An operating system has to work on all hardware. Asking people to buy a
> > RYF approved device to run guixsd is no different than apple requiring you
> > to buy an apple computer to run mac os x. Turning guixsd into an embedded
> > system for RYF devices is not something I want to spend time and effort on. 
> > I
> > can't with good conscience recommend to people to buy a usb wifi adapter to
> > use guixsd when I believe they have much larger privacy issues in their 
> > devices.
> >
> > To be comfortable contributing to a free project I need to know that people 
> > are
> > able to do whatever THEY want, with those contributions, and not what the 
> > FSF
> > wants. The FSDG and GNU philosophy prevent me from offering any kind of help
> > and require me to do it hidden. What really gets to me is that I feel
> > - whether justly
> > or not - that the FSF believes I need to feel shame for doing and 
> > recommending
> > whatever I believe is best. The word "immoral" in this context is
> > simply unacceptable
> > to me.
> >
> > Compliance with the FSDG makes guix very much dependent on an
> > external entity.
> 
> Thanks for this explanation.  Now I understand your point and I agree
> with it!  I also don't like that by default GuixSD stricts itself to the
> hardware supported by linux-libre.  If linux-libre didn't support all
> the hardware on my computer, most likely I would not used GuixSD at all.

Running GuixSD on HW not fully supported by linux-libre is painful for
me as well. I remember my first time success with GuixSD - after some
coffee and sweating I managed to deploy and boot GuixSD on my notebook
which had WiFi card requiring firmware to run. I wasn't able to fix
missing package without reboot.

It took me some time to get with my own kernel (vanilla
based) and initrd on top of Guix (especially as Guile is still
language barrier for me).

I'd love to see some coordinated effort outside of (or better on top of)
Guix to share such work.

I value the freedom, I like the way that Guix cares about it. Yet I
want and need to do something with my computer as well and this could
help sometimes:)

So, guys, where are your GIT repositories for GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH?

S_W