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Re: Blog post: Guix/Hurd on Real Iron


From: jbranso
Subject: Re: Blog post: Guix/Hurd on Real Iron
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 00:45:24 +0000

November 29, 2024 at 1:35 PM, "Janneke Nieuwenhuizen" <janneke@gnu.org 
mailto:janneke@gnu.org?to=%22Janneke%20Nieuwenhuizen%22%20%3Cjanneke%40gnu.org%3E
 > wrote:



> 
> > 
> > November 27, 2024 at 8:41 AM, "Tanguy LE CARROUR" <tanguy@bioneland.org 
> > mailto:tanguy@bioneland.org?to=%22Tanguy%20LE%20CARROUR%22%20%3Ctanguy%40bioneland.org%3E
> >  > wrote:
> > 
> Hello,
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Janneke,
> > >  
> > >  Quoting janneke@gnu.org (2024-11-26 08:37:22)
> > >  
> > >  > 
> > >  > Tanguy LE CARROUR writes:
> > >  > You wrote "This allows the usage of the Intel 82573L Gigabit Ethernet 
> > > Controller
> > >  > of the Thinkpad X60" and I happen to have a X200s. According to 
> > > ThinkWiki [1]
> > >  > it’s supposed to have the same e1000e driver, but a different 
> > > controller: 82567LM.
> > >  > Any chance that trying to install the Hurd on my laptop also works!? 🤞
> > >  > I guess I’ll just have to try and see! 😎
> > >  > 
> > >  > I didn't have any luck yet booting my X230, so that would be
> > >  > interesting. Especially because it might run the 64 version
> > >  > in time.
> > >  > 
> > >  Unfortunately, the installer image won’t build on my system:
> > >
> > 
> [..]
> 
> > 
> > It should work on Debian GNU/Hurd. That's an option as well.
> > 
> Debian GNU/Hurd is a pretty awesome*) system. It Just Works (TM).
> That's were we got most of my inpiration from, did much of our debugging
> on, got many of our patches from, and its developers have helped us
> endlessly to make Guix/Hurd a thing.
> 
> I conisdered this a well known fact; do you think we should mention this
> (more explicitly) in the blog post? If so, do you have a suggestion?

I'm not sure.  I had also assumed that it was a well known fact that Debian
GNU/Hurd is the most up to date and maintained Hurd distribion, with which you 
can run a desktop environment (XFCE) on bare metal.

If you so chose to add a snippet or link to Debian GNU/Hurd, then perhaps you 
could add this in a footnote (the choice is yours to make):

While Guix GNU/Hurd has an exciting future, please be aware that it 
lacks many packages and services, including Xorg.  If you simply must install
the Hurd on bare metal running your favorite window manager (eg: i3, icewm, 
etc.)
or lightweight desktop environment (Xfce) this week, then Debian GNU/Hurd is a 
good
choice.  Though we hope to catch up to them soon!


Thanks,

Joshua

P.S.  Really nice work on the blog post!  It's always fun to see you leading
the guix Hurd development effort! 

> Greetings,
> Janneke
> 
> *) as far as you can (still) appreciate a traditional, non-declarative
>  system to be awesome these days ;)
> 
> -- 
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