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Re: Hosting (up to) 10 build server in Stuttgart (Germany)


From: Jonathan Brielmaier
Subject: Re: Hosting (up to) 10 build server in Stuttgart (Germany)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:36:14 +0100
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Am 22.09.24 um 21:24 schrieb Jonathan Brielmaier:
Ping.

Is there any interest? Any thoughts on this?

There is finally an update from my side.

Sadly it was not possible for my employee to donate those servers to the
Guix Foundation:
* donating outside of Germany is complicated (they would need some payed
consulting)
* the need to pay taxes on the "scrap value" of those servers
* other accounting reasons...

So I have to withdraw my proposal for hosting build servers in
Stuttgart. At least for now.

~Jonathan

Am 25.08.24 um 20:19 schrieb Jonathan Brielmaier:
Hi Guix Foundation and Sysadmins,

triggered by Ludo's "Sustainable funding and maintenance for our
infrastructure" email, I did some "work" on the proposals 1. and 3.

The company I work for decommissioned a few servers[2] this July/August.
I prepared those servers for being donated to the Guix Foundation.
From a technical perspective they are almost ready.

I'm currently in the "legal" process, which is still a bit unclear.
And due to the holiday season this will take a few more weeks to
clarify :(

As they are missing any disks, we would need to buy SSDs/HDDs.

Additionally I searched for colocation providers in/around Stuttgart,
so I could take care of the hosting of this servers. In the end I only
found one colocation provider who offers less then one rack, so
basically a few U, and has still space in it's data center.

I've attached the offer from etes.de, as it's in German I'll list the
important bits.
The interesting pages are 9 and 10. I've already had a meeting with
them to explain our needs and they give us some discounts as we are an
open source project :)
I compared the prices with Hetzner in Germany[3]. (Which I can not
maintain as their data centers are a few hundred kilometers away from
me).

* Initial Setup: 250€ (Hetzner: 119€)
* Price per U: 18€/m (Hetzner: 8.50€/m)
* Uplink/Downlink: 45€/m (Hetzner: 0€)
* Electricity: 0.43€/kWh (Hetzner: 0.47€/kWh)
* Traffic: 10GB/U/m free, 60€/TB Uplink and Downlink (Hetzner: 2TB/m
free, 1.19€/TB Uplink)
* IPs: AFAIK a IPv6 \56 Subnet and one or two IPv4 addresses (Hetzner:
\56 IPv6, no IPv4 included AFAIK)

To me the traffic pricing looks a bit problematic/expensive. For
comparison substitutes.nonguix.org has around 50GB incoming traffic
per month and over 1TB outgoing traffic per month.

It would be also possible to send some/all of those servers to
Bordeaux or Berlin to host them there.
In this case I could handle the buying and installation of disks. As
well as configuring the BMCs and installing Guix System on them, if
someone provides with me the IP addresses, gateways, users etc.

What do you think about this? Any thoughts are welcome?

~Jonathan

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2024-07/msg00013.html
[2] 10x Oracle X5-2, 1U, 2x Intel Xeon E5-2699v3 18cores 2.30GHz,
768GB RAM, 2x600W PSU, 8x 2,5" Slot for SATA/SAS SSD/HDD (all empty),
FibreChannel and Ethernet-Network cards
[3] https://www.hetzner.com/colocation/



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