Re: Reading mails: Procmail, Fetchmail, and what?

[Merciadri Luca]

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asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:


> You have misunderstood something fundamental. You can't read email via
> news.sunsite.dk - news.sunsite.dk is a news server, from which you can
> read usenet newsgroups, not email.
>
I was finding it very weird, but I thought it was possible to make a
gateway with your ISP. Thanks for your definitive answer.


>> 1. Do I need to use Procmail or Fetchmail to fetch my mails, using
>> news.sunsite.dk?
>
> You can use fetchmail to transfer emails from an mail server to your
> local machine, and procmail to process (for instance filter) it there. 
> Gnus can then read it from your mail spool (or maildir, if you prefer
> that).
Very clear. Thanks.

>
> You can also bypass fetchmail and procmail entirely and have Gnus fetch
> email from a POP og IMAP server directly (arguably easier.)
Clearly easier. As I have configured .authinfo, would it be
straightforward to follow this solution?

Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> Merciadri Luca <Luca.Merciadri@student.ulg.ac.be> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have Procmail and Fetchmail both installed on my computer. I have
>> configured an .authinfo file, to be able to read my mails using
>> news.sunsite.dk. However, it does not work.
>>
>> There is something that I do not understand:
>> 1. Do I need to use Procmail or Fetchmail to fetch my mails, using
>> news.sunsite.dk?
>
> Your mails do not come from here. News (usenet) comes from here. I assume
> you mean things like your googlemail (or whatever you use for email)  is
> what you want? As a suggestion I recommend not using your ISP email
> account since you will change isp in coming years. Get a good
> independent email account. I like gmail - fast, access via pop3 and imap
> and lots of storage.
>

Thanks, your answer completes Adam's one.

>> 2. Is it really possible to use news.sunsite.dk to fetch my mails? If
>> so, how?
>
> No.


>
> I personally use getmail. I have a script which processes all getmail rc
> files in a certain directory so: (~/bin/getmails)
>
> ,----
> | #!/bin/bash
> | host=$(hostname)
> | mailserver="hermes.richardriley.net"
> | if [ $host != "hermes.richardriley.net" ]
> | then
> |     echo "Doing remote call to mailserver $mailserver"
> |     ssh $mailserver /home/shamrock/bin/getmails
> |     exit
> | fi
> | 
> | cmd="getmail -d -q"
> | 
> | for file in ~/.getmail/*.rc; do
> |     cmd="$cmd --rcfile $file "
> | done
> | 
> | $cmd
> `----
>
> an rc file on the remote system looks like this:
>
> here we see ~/.getmails/rileyrgdev.rc getting my pop3 emal and calling
> procmail ...
>
> ,----
> | [retriever]
> | type = SimplePOP3SSLRetriever
> | server = pop.gmail.com
> | username = rileyrgdev@gmail.com
> | port = 995
> | password = **********************
> | [destination]
> | type = MDA_external
> | path = /usr/bin/procmail
> `----
>
> Note it telling getmail to invoke procmail. procmail then filters the
> mail and places it where the procmail config tells it. In this case the
> rule in the .procmailrc is:
>
> ,----
> | :0
> | * ^(To|Delivered-To):.*rileyrgdev.*
> | $MAILDIR/.DevelopmentEmail/
> `----
>
> (The .DevelopmentEmail is a MAILDIR for Dovecot which is an IMAP
> server. I then connect to my own IMAP server to collect all my email in
> my mail program).
>
> Its a lot to learn at the start but a valuable process!
>
> Oh, and "getmails" is run via cron on my mailserver or I can invoke it
> manually from my local machine where it ssh's into my mail server to run
> it.
>
Thanks. It was not as complicated as I thought. I will think about
this solution (Anyway, I keep it, as it is nice), but I am currently
materially lacking of time, and I will thus think about a more
straightforward solution.

> Have fun!
>
For sure! Thanks. 

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