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Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts
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Farid Hajji |
Subject: |
Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts |
Date: |
Sat, 6 May 2006 16:07:09 +0000 |
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On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 06:52:13AM -0700, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> Ehm, the chip has two functions
> -secure key storage
> -OS attestation
>
> If you rely on either of these it is central to security and
> reliablity. If you do not, the chip is useless as it does not provide
> any other function.
>
> Both of these function assume some property of the chip that cannot be
> verified. For key storage it is durability non-disclosure of the keys
> (in fact, there is even no attempt to guarantee durability of the
> keys). For attestation it is non-forgeability of the signature. Both
> is solely in the hands of the designer and producer of the chips.
>
> >And if you're not happy with it, maybe you could burn it.
>
> If you use a free OS and a piece of hardware that is not completely
> horrible you should be able to just ignore it.
Or emulate it...
> Michal
-Farid.
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, (continued)
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/03
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/03
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/03
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/04
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/04
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/04
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Michal Suchanek, 2006/05/05
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/06
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/06
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Michal Suchanek, 2006/05/06
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts,
Farid Hajji <=
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Michal Suchanek, 2006/05/08
- Circumventing/Emulating Fritz-chips, Farid Hajji, 2006/05/08
- Re: Circumventing/Emulating Fritz-chips, Pierre THIERRY, 2006/05/09
- Re: Circumventing/Emulating Fritz-chips, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/05/09
- Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/05/08
Addendum: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/04
Bruce Schneier: "Everyone Wants to 'Own' Your PC" (was: Re: Part 1: Ownership and Contracts, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/05/04