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Re: Separate trusted computing designs
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Tom Bachmann |
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Re: Separate trusted computing designs |
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Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:54:56 +0200 |
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Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:
>> But, the crucial issue is that for the duration the contract is
>> engaged under such terms, the other party will *not* be the owner of
>> the machine.
>
> A contract cannot alienate ownership. It can grant exclusivity of use
> for a period of time, and it may contain provisions for indemnification
> of liability. These things do not alter ownership. They do not alter
> certain conditions pertaining to seizure.
>
As a side note, this is, imo, a discussion of terms: for me, for
instance, "I on this computer" is a superset of "I can read and write
every bit of this computer's ram (at any time)". For you, it appareantly
is not. One crucial point about discussing these things is that we
require not-technical reasoning, reasoning in terms we often do not
precisely define.
> This aside, I disagree with an assumption that you appear to be making
> here. It appears to me that you deny the possibility that a machine may
> be contracted on a non-exclusive but isolated basis.
Where does he (implicitely) state that one?
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- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, (continued)
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Christian Stüble, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Tom Bachmann, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/30
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/30
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Michal Suchanek, 2006/08/30
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/30
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Marcus Brinkmann, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs,
Tom Bachmann <=
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/30
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- Fwd: Separate trusted computing designs, Michal Suchanek, 2006/08/30
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- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/30
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Tom Bachmann, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Christian Stüble, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Tom Bachmann, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Christian Stüble, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Michal Suchanek, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Jonathan S. Shapiro, 2006/08/31
- Re: Separate trusted computing designs, Christian Stüble, 2006/08/31