Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [fsf-community-team] Golden Rule Angle for Libre Software Advocacy

[Mary-Anne Wolf]

This is someone whom I think ART and I have heard speak
at Libre Planet, who has a pacemaker and is frustrated
by the source not being libre.

https://www.fsf.org/working-together/profiles/karen-sandler

Mary-Anne

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From: "MBR" <mbr@arlsoft.com>
To: "FSF Community Team" <fsf-community-team@gnu.org>
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Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 9:06:22 PM
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [fsf-community-team] Golden Rule Angle for 
Libre Software Advocacy

This is the kind of argument we need to be making.  It's something 
average people can relate to because it's real today.  Worrying about 
the plight of robots in some hypothetical future is not going to 
interest anyone other than the most avid Trekkies, and although there 
may be a lot of people like that among the programmer population, their 
numbers are negligible in the population at large.

    Mark Rosenthal


On 8/13/16 2:24 PM, Marcos Marado wrote:
>
> I won't go as far as to talk about robotic bodies, but the issue is 
> pertinent today, with current technology.
>
> I recently read about a woman who has a pacemaker. It had a software 
> bug, which frightened her. She knows /of/ it but she doesn't know it, 
> since she doesn't have access to the software running on her own body. 
> Furthermore, she found out that there is a functionality in it to 
> accept OTA updates, which she cannot control. Scary. And this is not 
> science fiction, this is a real case, current technology.
>
> Unfortunately I don't recall where I read about this, but it was in 
> the last couple of weeks. On FSFE's newsletter, maybe?
>
> Anyway, the question can be rephrased to "how ethical it is to implant 
> non-free software on someone's body?".
>
> Best regards,
> -- 
> Marcos Marado
> ANSOL.org
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2016 16:42, "Logan Streondj" <streondj@gmail.com 
> <mailto:streondj@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
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>     Hi,
>
>     I recently gave a presentation[1] on my libreware project, and someone
>     said they really liked the Golden Rule angle of reincarnating as a
>     robot
>     .
>
>     The typical example I've often read advocating for libreware is the
>     car analogy, where you have access to your cars internals. This was a
>     great analogy when cars didn't have loads of proprietary software
>     installed -- unfortunately it is only increasing because of
>     self-driving cars.
>
>     However now as we get closer to the twenty twenties, when the
>     processing of a human brain should be affordable for a $1000.
>     The analogy I use now is:
>
>     "When you reincarnate as a robot, do you want to be enslaved by
>     proprietary software and hardware, or be liberated by libre software
>     and hardware?"
>
>     Anyways wondering what you guys think of this angle,
>     and if you might use it also.
>     I have more detailed slides in my presentation[1].
>
>
>     [1] my presentation SPEL and GI-OS overview (CC-BY-SA): PDF
>     http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf
>     <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf>
>      source TEX:
>     wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex
>     <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex>
>
>     - --
>     Logan Streondj,
>     A dream of Gaia's future.
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>     twitter: https://twitter.com/streondj
>
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