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Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free software (and how yo


From: Paul Sutton
Subject: Re: Introducing a new project for teenagers in free software (and how you can help!)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:12:09 +0000

Hi All

I agree on starting people young,  perhaps one way in to this is to open up discussions.   Young people (and others) want to be involved.

Lets take integration of AI in to everything,  the fact this is being forced on us, regardless of if we actually want it,  should be open to discussion,  free software gives us that choice,  we can fork a project to include or exclude AI Components for example,  but we need the freedom to do so.

Also we could aim this project at different faculties a lot of subjects do now include programming as we can use code to help automate work,  BUT we need to trust all the tools not just what they are doing, but they are also secure against external threats to steal what we are working on.

Take cloud strike as an example of what happens when we rely on a 3rd party and closed source to do things for us, 99 percent of the time it works.   All very well, what is the alternative,  I get told to avoid cloudflare (or what ever it is called) but don't get told what I can use instead.

Projects need to be student led,  many have external interests and we can help them develop solutions that are practical  but personal to them.   If there are several students involved in the same external interest,  then they can form a team and take ownership.

Students get told what to do at school,  external clubs to a point need to be about them.

Just some thoughts.

Paul

On 04/12/2024 16:23, Aaron E-J wrote:
    I have thought that the idea of working on open source projects as
    learning tools would be a great win-win-win opportunity to advance
    education.  I am coming in the context of the college level, but I
    think we need to start students down the path towards free software as
    early as possible.  The name for the project I was thinking of is
    called "World Piece" or "World Pieces" and it is a play on the notion
    of breaking learning goals into code tasks.  Basically how I was
    thinking this would work is, given a topic to be learnt, there is some
    auto-curation of open source git repositories with open tasks to be
    completed.  Although there are definitely issues with GitHub, privacy,
    and consuming open source technologies for closed source gain, I was
    just looking at some of the learning materials on GitHub and I think
    there may be funding or technical support available from Microsoft to
    create such a project.  Obviously we need to make sure that the
    objective is learning code, not learning to use GitHub, and promoting
    open source software, not maximizing profit to the determent of
    society.  However, I think the general concept of integrating open
    project issues into learning tasks is a far more efficacious means of
    teaching than having students work on meaningless one-off homework that
    has no larger purpose.  There could even be the chance to get industry
    funding for students to earn money based on completion of sponsored
    tasks, although again, we need to be careful to not turn this into an
    exploitative means of getting cheap labor.

    I am connected to both the education and engineering departments at
    UMass in Massachusetts, USA and will put feelers out for potential
    collaborators.  Do you have a website/other documents with more info on
    the framework?  Do you think my idea and yours can be melded into some
    sort of larger plan?
Aaron E-J
The Other Realm
[1]http://otherrealm.org
[2]http://theotherrealm.org (Blog)

    On 11/29/2024 11:41 PM, carmenmaris--- via libreplanet-discuss wrote:


Hi everyone!

I've been working on something really exciting I want to share with
you all.

For the past several months I've been working on a project whose aim is to bring
teenagers into the free software movement, help them develop their
skills and give them a fun and supportive community that will sustain
their interest.

My project is currently unnamed[1]. The idea for it was inspired by my
own memories of discovering free software at age 13. This is the kind
of thing I would have loved to participate in as a teenager. I
hope that's also true for today's teens.

This is an ambitious project and I'm in it for the long-term. I'd like
to start fairly small. In the first year, I'll be focussing on:

* Introducing teenagers to free software.

   I'll be making plenty of age-appropriate materials telling people
   about free software and working with other youth organisations to
   distribute them to their members.

* Creating a community for teenagers interested in free
   software.

   I will run an online community with structured discussions and
   online events. I'm also planning on running some biweekly free
   software clubs using videoconferencing software. The online
   communities will be safe places for young people to learn new skills
   and share what they know with others.

* Publishing a small online magazine once a month.

   The articles will be things like answers to questions, stories on free
   software issues relevant to teenagers, inspiration for college and
   careers in technology, programming tutorials, interviews with people
   in the community and stories celebrating young people's successes.

* Helping teenagers fight back against non-free software in their
   lives.

   What I do here really depends on the needs of the young people that
   join us. I want to work with them to find goals they can achieve
   with some support. Based on what I know about how things are in my
   local community, I would be looking at finding ways to help
   teenagers win the right to choose free software at school and get
   their friends to adopt free software social media and messaging
   apps.

This project isn't just for teenagers that are interested in
programming. I have lots planned for everyone.

[1] I came up with a name ('LaunchLibre') many months ago.  Despite
searching trademark registers and the internet, I somehow hadn't heard about
LaunchCode until this morning. Obviously, I'll be choosing another
name as soon as I can. Suggestions are very welcome.

Where I'm at now
----------------

I've done substantial research and made detailed plans for what
my project will do, how it'll be funded and how I hope it will grow
into the future. I've been experimenting in my local community with
distributing materials, speaking to community groups and working on
setting up a free software club for teenagers. I've learnt a lot about
what will work and what won't.

The plan for the next few months is to apply for a small business
grant and incorporate.

How you can help me
-------------------

I need members to found an incorporated society.

The law here in New Zealand says I need 10, but it's best if I have
around 20. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find enough people in
this country to get even remotely close to those numbers.

If you might be interested in becoming one of the society's members,
please message me off-list. There will only be an occasional time
commitment. Your participation is vital for making this a
reality and I'll be very thankful for your help. You can become a
member of the society even if you live outside of New Zealand.

I'm always appreciative of comments and advice.  You can also help me by
  sharing this information with other people you think might be interested.

If you're 13-18 and haven't graduated from secondary school yet, I'd
love to talk to you. This project is for you, and your thoughts mean a
lot to me!

Questions and updates
---------------------

I'm always happy to answer questions. I've thought long and hard about
everything to do with this project and I'm excited to share!

If you'd like updates on my progress, I'll be putting
together a mailing list. Please message me if you're interested.

If you're in Auckland, I'd love to meet you! I'll have a table at
the Christmas festival at Coast Plaza on December 8. I'll be there
from around 10 am to 3 pm with a break for lunch. If you can't make
it, you can message me and I'm sure we can arrange something else.

- Carmen





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References

    1. http://otherrealm.org/
    2. http://theotherrealm.org/
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