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Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects |
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Sat, 02 Apr 2022 15:50:17 +0200 |
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Kieren MacMillan <kieren@kierenmacmillan.info> writes:
> Hi Han-Wen,
>
>> Over the years, I've become extremely wary of syntactic sugar: it adds
>> an extra barrier to usage/development because everyone not only has to
>> learn Scheme, they also have to learn the (lilypond specific) idioms
>> involved.
>
> I'm curious you say that, since my experience is precisely the
> opposite: I've had far better results "selling" Lilypond to people
> using syntactic sugar than basically anything else I can identify. The
> people I’ve "converted" all want to be able to type things like
>
> \reverseMusic \foo
>
> rather than learning how to write the equivalent function in
> Scheme. In other words, syntactic sugar keeps them from learning
> Scheme as opposed to having to learn it.
>
> Am I missing something? Is my experience unique?
You are talking about different things. Syntactic sugar says the same
thing but in a more cohesive manner. That is not the same as assembling
dedicated functionality from suitable components.
Syntactic sugar saves clutter which is not the same as hiding internals.
--
David Kastrup
- Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/04/01
- Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/04/01
- Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2022/04/02
- Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects, Dan Eble, 2022/04/02
- Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/04/03
- Re: Scheme pattern for retrieving data in objects, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2022/04/03