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Re: System spacing for Certain
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Reggie |
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Re: System spacing for Certain |
Date: |
Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:24:04 -0700 (MST) |
Aaron Hill wrote
> On 2019-01-16 2:04 pm, Reggie wrote:
>> Please can you help me? I cannot move just ONE staff in a system, it's
>> moving THE system as a unit which is wrong. I am so sad. What did I
>> break?
>> How difficult is it to just move ONE staff without moving anything else
>> in
>> the score pages? I just want to learn how to adjust the middle staff
>> not
>> system as example here.
>
> Wow... no wonder you're having trouble. I just tried to work through
> the relevant section of the documentation [1] and found that it largely
> does not work as stated. Well, to be more specific, I could get some
> partial results using 2.18.2 via lilybin.com, however my local copy of
> 2.19.82 fails to render the examples as documented. There are
> definitely some bugs here that need to be addressed, but let us move
> that discussion to another thread.
>
> [1]:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/explicit-staff-and-system-positioning
>
> Getting back to your issue at hand, there are some options. Firstly,
> the property (and only property) you want to control is
> alignment-distances. That one appears to be the only one that can
> reliably apply to an individual staff within a system. Consider the
> following:
>
> %%%%
> \version "2.19.82"
> \layout { indent = 0 }
> <<
> \new Staff \repeat unfold 6 b'1
> \new Lyrics \repeat unfold 3 \lyricmode
> { Lo4 -- rem ip -- sum do8 -- lor sit a -- met2 }
>
> \new Staff <<
> \new Voice {
> s1*2 \break
> \overrideProperty
> Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details
> #'((alignment-distances . (5 15)))
> s1*2 \break
> s1*2 \break
> }
>
> \new Voice \repeat unfold 24 b'4
> >>
>
> \new Staff \repeat unfold 12 b'2
>>>
> %%%%
>
> This example will look odd but it is to show a critical point. When
> setting the alignment-distances, you must be careful with the values you
> use. Too small of a value will result in overlapping as can be seen.
> It is important to note that non-staff lines such as lyrics do not count
> here. The distance you are specifying is relative to the prior staff.
>
> Because of that, I would consider the approach above rather fragile. It
> may end up working for you, but be aware that it will take continued
> maintenance when other aspects of the music change. As such, here is
> another option to consider:
>
> %%%%
> \version "2.19.82"
> \layout { indent = 0 }
> verticalSpacer = -\markup \with-color #red \draw-line #'(0 . 8)
> <<
> \new Staff \repeat unfold 6 b'1
> \new Lyrics \repeat unfold 3 \lyricmode
> { Lo4 -- rem ip -- sum do8 -- lor sit a -- met2 }
>
> \new Staff <<
> \new Voice {
> s1*2 \break
> s1*2_\verticalSpacer \break
> s1*2 \break
> }
>
> \new Voice \repeat unfold 24 b'4
> >>
>
> \new Staff \repeat unfold 12 b'2
>>>
> %%%%
>
> All we are doing here is using some dummy markup to create a placeholder
> object to force LilyPond to space things how we want. Note that I
> colored the object red so it would be more clear where the placeholder
> object is. This would be a good idea while you are working on the
> piece, but for the final version you would replace "\with-color #red"
> with "\transparent".
>
> The advantage of a placeholder is that all of the elements of the score
> still remain relative to each other. Should changes to the music cause
> it to reflow, you have less work to do to maintain desired spacing. I
> also think this technique gives you more control.
>
>
> -- Aaron Hill
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>
> spacing.ex1.png (107K)
> <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/218899/0/spacing.ex1.png>
> spacing.ex2.png (109K)
> <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/218899/1/spacing.ex2.png>
Thank you for seeing what I mean. I felt so stupid reading it like I was
crazy. I understand your idea about the redline markup however I have few
questions please.
First, are you saying that every time I want to manually adjust one staff in
a system in one instance I must create a new voice just to hack this? Like
you did? What about my original code itself used? Second, you mention that
it's relative from PRIOR staff right? What if I want to move the top staff
of a system up or down only for example as such?
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