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Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate |
Date: |
Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:15:51 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) |
Knute Snortum <ksnortum@gmail.com> writes:
> I have discovered that LilyPond 2.25.19 produces a bad bar check warning
> under certain circumstances. The three parts are 1) using two voices, 2)
> an appoggiatura, 3) using articulate.ly. Below is my example code:
>
> %%%
> \version "2.25.19"
>
> rightHand = \relative {
> \time 3/4
> <<
> { \voiceOne e'4. d'8 }
> \new Voice { \voiceFour e,2 }
> >>
> \oneVoice \appoggiatura { c'16 d e } d8 c |
> }
>
> % This score block is not necessary to produce the warning but
> % it shows how the measure is correct.
> % \score {
> % \new Staff \rightHand
> % \layout {}
> % }
>
> \include "articulate.ly"
>
> \score {
> \articulate <<
> \new Staff \rightHand
> >>
> \midi {}
> }
> %%%
>
> This may be related to the problems with creating the MIDI output of an
> appoggiatura with articulate.
In my book, an appoggiatura is executed at least with the written
duration, and here you take 3/16 of time from 1/8. How is that supposed
to work? You probably want \acciaccatura or \grace instead.
What does the music glossary say about LilyPond's idea?
1.20 appoggiatura
=================
ES: apoyatura, I: appoggiatura, F: appoggiature, (port de voix), D:
Vorschlag, Vorhalt NL: (korte) voorslag, DK: forslag, S: förslag, FI:
appoggiatura, etuhele.
Ornamental note, usually a second, that is melodically connected with
the main note following it. In music before the 19th century
appoggiature were usually performed on the beat, after that mostly
before the beat. While the short appoggiatura is performed as a short
note regardless of the duration of the main note the duration of the
long appoggiatura is proportional to that of the main note.
Ok, it woulkd appear that my idea (and possibly that of articulate.ly's
author) corresponds with what is described here as "long appoggiatura",
namely being written in the timing of normal notes and taking from the
following note.
--
David Kastrup
- Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate, Knute Snortum, 2024/09/16
- Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate, Knute Snortum, 2024/09/16
- Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate, Knute Snortum, 2024/09/16
- Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate, Stu McKenzie via LilyPond User List, 2024/09/16
- Re: Bad bar check warning with two voices, appoggiatura, and articulate, William Rehwinkel, 2024/09/16