Re: How to increase the distance between the last note of a measure and the following bar line

[Thomas Morley]

Am Fr., 13. Dez. 2024 um 23:26 Uhr schrieb Thomas Morley
<thomasmorley65@gmail.com>:
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> Am Fr., 13. Dez. 2024 um 22:59 Uhr schrieb Trevor Bača <trevorbaca@gmail.com>:
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> >
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> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 3:46 PM David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
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> >> Trevor Bača <trevorbaca@gmail.com> writes:
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> >> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 1:11 PM David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
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> >> >> Trevor Bača <trevorbaca@gmail.com> writes:
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> >> >> > Most helpful of all was the suggestion that the grob descriptions 
> >> >> > given
> >> >> as
> >> >> > IR 3.1 ...
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> >> >> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/internals/all-layout-objects
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> >> >> > ... be expanded to list *all* properties for a given grob, rather than
> >> >> only
> >> >> > the properties that a grob *changes* from interface defaults.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is such a great idea.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't see how it is a great idea to list properties that may not
> >> >> affect a grob at all in the documentation of a grob.
> >> >
> >> > Excuse me?
> >> >
> >> > Can you please elaborate just a little bit more on what you're
> >> > thinking?
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> >> Why would you want to list a property that has no effect on a grob?
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> > David, please go look at the IR 3.1 entry for TupletBracket ...
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> > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/internals/tupletbracket
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> > ... and tell me where on that page users learn that they have the ability 
> > to override the color of a tuplet bracket to red.
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> > Go ahead. Where is that information provided?
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> > --
> > Trevor Bača
> > www.trevorbaca.com
> > soundcloud.com/trevorbaca
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> TupletBracket has grob-interface (ofcourse).
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/internals/grob_002dinterface
> lists 'color.
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> Otoh, NoteColumn has grob-interface as well (ofcourse), overriding
> NoteColumn.color takes no effect.
>
> Cheers,
>   Harm

And here NoteColumn.color works:

{
  \override NoteColumn.color = #red
  \override NoteColumn.stencil =
    #(lambda (grob)
      (grob-interpret-markup grob "NoteColumn"))
  <b d' f'>4
}

it's far from trivial to say which property may work or not.
_If_ something reacts on a property, then it may work (already said).
This something may not be the default, but customized code.

For the default all key-values are listed.
Unset properties wich may have an effect on the default code should be
documented, though the IR is the wrong place.
Instead this is the duty of the NR.

My 2 cents,
  Harm