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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31
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hendrik |
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31 |
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Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:48:54 -0500 |
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On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 03:29:12AM -0800, Larry Hastings wrote:
>
> Once again, I reflect: if I had a time machine, /after/ I made my
> millions, I'd go back and cause MS-DOS 1.0 to use just LF for EOL and
> "-" for program options, freeing up "/" for use as the directory
> separator under MS-DOS 2.0. How many hours of our lives have been
> wasted on these needless differences? ("And, Tim, while we're on the
> subject, we need to talk about these 'drive letter' things...")
Just for historical record, this famous Microsoft "incompatibility"
is actually a point in which they followed the official standard.
ASCII was designed without a newline symbol; instead, it had a
carriage-return -- which returned the teletype carriage to the
beginning of the current line, permitting it to be overwritten, and
a line feed character, which moved to the next line while leaving the
carriage alone (thus effectively moving a cursor straight down).
As a convenience to people using keyboards, it was recommended that
input and text-editing software be able to accept a single carriage
return as an indication to move to the start of the new line,
generating both a CR and a LF. But this was a suggestion as to what
carriage return could do as an editing command, not a part of the
character code.
It was Unix that broke from this convention, breaking the CR-LF
standard and using LF instead of CR as a newline character.
Some 8-bit version of ASCII have a newline controm character now, and
Unicode has a code-point for it two bytes in UTF-8). It seems never to
be used.
This history lessone doesn't have much of an effect on monotone, but,
much as I detest many of Microsoft's policies, this is one case where it
wasn't their fault.
To avoid problems, I have found it useful to have all my programs
recognise CR and LF as newline characters, and to ignore one CR
following an end-of-line LF and to ignore one LF following an
end-of-line CR. In situation where my code is not the final consumer of
the text, I preserve whatever line-end coding exists in the
original, whether it follow one or another convention or is
completely inconsistent.
In monotone, I suggest that a file that has been character-converted on
checkout have its line-end codingw reverted on checkin, on a
line-by-line basis. Thus only when the user explicitly edits line ends
will the end-of-line coding be changed in the repository. This would
have the effect that if massive damage is done to a true binary file if
it is mistakenly line-end-converted, the damage would be mostly undone
on subsequent checkin.
It is probably not the most convenient load to dump on the diff
engine, though I can imagine algorithms.
-- hendrik
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, (continued)
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Brian May, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Thomas Moschny, 2006/11/22
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Brian May, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, J Decker, 2006/11/22
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Larry Hastings, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31,
hendrik <=
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, hendrik, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Timothy Brownawell, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Rob Schoening, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Larry Hastings, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Brian May, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, hendrik, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, Brian May, 2006/11/21
- Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings with 0.31, hendrik, 2006/11/21
RE: [Monotone-devel] line endings with 0.31, Kelly F. Hickel, 2006/11/20